Hornady Mandates "Vaccine" for Employees

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Doubt it. I’ve been listening, and I haven’t heard one.

Previously, you wrote

Right. That is just a personal observation/anecdote, but it is one which matches reality in the context of centuries of medical practice.

I’ve been living for the past 50yr in a red county which is now filling up with the dead and dying refuseniks and super-spreaders. The blue county next door is more populated and more densely so — but has infection rates and death rates one-half to one-third of ours. Which one do you think has vaccines and wears masks? Just another anecdote — but again one which matches centuries of epidemiological experience.

I’m here because I believe in individual and common defense. Can’t speak for these guys who think that beating down different viewpoints is a “right”.

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I put my reasons several of my posts earlier. There’s enough of them to…notice…:thinking:

Techs, red town here as well, I personally know only 2 people who had covid, my commie co worker who I shared a desk with before I got retired, and a former co worker, ironically a great guy but way left politically. Both live in Dem controlled areas, but I see this as coincidence.
The break outs among the fully vaccinated on Cape Cod last summer…well, the Cape attracts the extreme left.

Just got this in my email…reasons from those in the medical profession… No sign of bodies being stacked up like techs is seeing.

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Has this “mandate” even been written down anywhere but in the media? As far as I can tell, it was just in a speech Brand… I mean Biden read.

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from what I’ve seen, it’s an upcoming thing? Seems it’s been delegated to OSHA to implement. Just did some searches, several lawsuits from nurses, NY, AZ, Mil etc to stop this, but no timeline to actually implement it. Threats and coersion from what I see.

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It’s media driven propaganda and nothing more. There is nothing entered into the Federal Register. The administration is using gas lighting techniques and pitting friends and families, employers and employees against one another for a virus that has a 99% survival rate.

Stay safe out there.

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The same people who are pushing the “mandate” are the people who publicly stated they would not take the “Trump vaccine”. They made it political. Secondly the “health expert” has changed his story innumerable times. Everything from two weeks to damp the curve to a lifetime of mandatory booster shots. They have lost the trust of a large percentage of the population!

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Another venue of creating millions of felons.

Yep, you won’t see people held down for a jab or put into camps. Name of the game is you have to agree and accept it. Why is it so is another question.

The information you hear strongly correlates with the source. Is yours NPR?

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Loss of trust. That sums it up for me. And here is a list of ever growing questions that I have regarding the jab:

• Why can some people refuse products because they were developed after being tested on animals, but others cannot refuse products because they were developed after being tested on humans?

• Do you know what is in the so-called vaccines? Where is the label? Do you read what is on food product labels before you buy them or consume them? Why are there labels? Because the FDA wants you to know what you are putting inside your body, correct? What exactly did you put into your body? (But you can tell me how many calories that you consume after eating a candy bar, correct?)

• If the vaccines work, why are vaccinated people still getting sick with Covid?

• If the vaccines are safe and effective, why are people being forced to take them under penalty of being fired, penalty of freedom to move about?

• If the vaccines work, and you are vaccinated, how are the unvaccinated a danger to you?

• If the vaccines work, why are masks required?

• If masks are so effective and regular citizens have to wear them, why doesn’t the President wear his in public when going out for dinner in public? (October 2021)

• If we are told that we must “follow the science,” why aren’t those who have anti-bodies being treated the same as those who have received the vaccine (who are still getting sick)?

• Why are members of Congress exempt from getting the Covid Jab?

• Why are employees of the US Postal service exempt from getting the Covid Jab?

It seems that I will be able to add to this list each day. I am not anti-vaccine, I have been vaccinated for many things over my lifetime.

Whether you decide to get a jab or not (I really don’t care), stay safe out there.

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One of the things that is troubling is the number of people who blindly follow the flock.

A thought came to me that we have been softened up by modern technology.

i.e. This morning I accepted new terms of service for my IOS cloud without reading the terms. It brought to mind all of the times I’ve clicked yes or accept in order to keep my computer working.

Scary!

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There are dozens of very dangerous viruses, and the vaccines have been under development for decades - with no result. Science is not omnipotent.
Having an ineffective vaccine is perfect for people who are interested in disrupting and creating strife, while siphoning taxpayers’ money into their personal coffers.
This explains why HCQ and IVM are being slandered, they remove basis for emergency authorization for the fauccine. You can also predict, that if truly effective vaccine is brought to the market, it will be suppressed, slow tracked, etc.
I am not sure what these people were thinking, assuming the political conditions will remain the same, until statute of limitations expires… A lot of what is happening is very transparent criminality, and the moment LE will be allowed to focus on it, they are screwed.

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I work for a very liberal company. We were given an update this morning on “mandatory vaccination.” Our company, will comply with the mandate. That said, we are taking no action at this time, because they have been given no additional information outside of President Brandon’s mandate. Until they are given specifics, we are not required. Even when(if) OSHA writes the regulations, we have the option of weekly testing instead of getting vaccinated. Furthermore, if we choose to get the shot, and get ill from it, within a reasonable time frame(few days), we can take paid time off, without using OUR paid time.

So, any company that is requiring anything outside of the letter of the government edict, is enforcing an infringement on the rights of its employees. If possible, I will avoid spending my money with those companies.

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@shawn17 and @techs, then you clearly have not been reading what has been posted here, as there have been quite cogent arguments against the “vaccine” that does not actually prevent one from getting COVID-19 nor as @techs implied protecting others from the virus (which it does not). As those that are pro-“vaccine” like to say, follow the science. If the “vaccine” does not protect you nor protect anyone that comes into contact with an infected “vaccinated” person, what rational reason is there to get an injection that can cause harm or death to the recipient? Especially considering, even using the data that the CDC admits is inflated, still shows an overall survival rate of 98.3% in the general public and over 99.95% of those that are healthy. Even my mid-80s mother with 11 stents and other major health issues survived it with symptoms of a bad cold (yes, I know, anecdotal evidence).

Also, when you dive into the CDC data, you see a spike in the weekly death rate in January 2021, about 10 months after the mask mandates, “social distancing”, etc., same month Influenza, which is now exceedingly rare, typically spikes. If masks and “social distancing” worked, how could that be possible?

Also, oddly, in 2020, the CDC decreased their expected annual deaths over 700,000 from 2019, whereas every year prior they increased the expected annual deaths due to the aging population. Yet in 2020, there was an increase in deaths of 500,000? 200,000 less then their decrease in expected deaths from 2019. Again, follow the science.

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More coercion and yet another violation of the Nuremberg Code. Really crazy that we’ve come to this. Most likely they are protecting some government contracts. Allowing fear to guide their decisions. Unacceptable, un-respectable, but understandable. I’m hoping they accept exemptions that the government is accepting. Religious exemptions and anti abortion exemptions are both being accepted by the White House and DOJ among other Branches.

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Please report anyone you suspect of anti-party behavior.

Every time I pick up a prescription of any kind, it contains a voluminous pamphlet that includes a full disclosure of potential side effects, and I believe this is federal law. Anyone getting the jab should be given a copy of this disclosure if requested. That is informed consent. But what we have is coercion and extortion. That’s enough for me to question everything.

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I guess not everybody is on the kool-aid. Choices; choices… This Promotion has Expired

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My liberty and freedom is not for sale.

Stay safe out there.

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What about a case of 9 for your immortal soul?

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@Alces_Americanus, the following reply is not directed at you personally. Please understand that before reading on…

Considering that the effects of the way the Covid 19 issue and the vaccine mandates has already cost me a very important part of my family, I wouldn’t trade my position on the issue for anything.

I’ve already lost so much in the last year. If I am not allowed to hold my Grandson, who in the hell really cares about %^$#ing coupons from Midway or free ammunition at this point?

But here we have plenty of matches being lit to hold to the gaslight once again. We’re getting gaslighted here from fellow forum members. Do this and get that. Get the jab and get money off of this, support a company who is firing people for freedom of choice and we’ll give you $100.00 off of a purchase. FFS already.

Stay safe out there.

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I guess I will keep Ordering from FENIX ammo in Michigan

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When I think of this jab that they’ve change the definition of a vax for, it makes me think of the cheese in a mouse trap. They’re bribing people with money, goods, and even a lively hood to convince people to get it. Why! What is it doing!? Doesn’t stop infection or transmission. Countries that have the highest jab percentage also have the highest number of cases and hospitalization. Ivermectin has all but completely defeated wu flu where it’s been allowed. So really, what is it doing

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