Anyone have any recommendations for Bluetooth enabled electronic ear muffs other than Walker or Prohear? Looking for something relatively slim with brisk suppression, battery or rechargeable. Looking to stay below $180. Many thanks in advance.
JMHO, but for me, hearing protection involves the most protection you can get, as opposed to the tradeoff of being able to “hear” people talking at the expense of noise supression. Electronic protection is nowhere near as effective as muffs over earplugs.
I get that people want to hear instructors and such, but noise damage is cuumulative over the course of your lifetime. For a class here or there, maybe it would pay to have noise cancelling muffs, but if you will (or do) shoot frequently, regular muffs over ear plugs are the best available option.
Ear muffs only? Would you consider ear buds?
People loves Axil, however I personally prefer ISO Tunes.
What I can tell.. this is very, very personal preference.
The reason buds work better for me is that I don’t need to take them off for several hrs during the class. Battery life is about 10 - 12 hrs.
FWIW, I personally use the soft foam ear plugs under Walker earmuffs. I turn the earmuffs up loud enough to hear conversation.
Walker earmuffs don’t work like noise reduction headsets. Basically they have a microphone and an amplifier. The amplifier shuts off when it detects gunfire. Therefore, I get the full benefit of the earplugs plus the earmuffs when there is gunfire and of course the amplifier is on when there is no gunfire.
I don’t quite understand what do you mean by that… but sometimes earbuds protect better than muffs.
It’s not about protecting or not protecting. It’s not even reason to discuss it.
You find what works best for your application, check the parameters and enjoy.
As an old guy, I recommend the maximum protection possible. Best available protection to date is well designed muffs (At least 28db NRR) plus in-ear plugs. Anything else is a compromise. (AND a personal preference)
To elaborate, noise reduction/cancelling earmuffs/headphones like Bose work entirely differently. Their microphone detects noise outside the headphones and generates the same noise 180 degrees out of phase with the noise. The net result is noise cancellation.
Walker type earmuffs are not that complex, which explains why they are not hundreds of dollars like Bose are. I have never tested my Bose headphones with gunfire, but my gut feel is they would not react quickly enough to protect my ears. They sure do make a long plane flight a lot less fatiguing!
BAck to your original question … I have no experience with what you are asking about, but maybe this link will help:
Their #1 pick, Peltor, is ~$150. Their NRR appears pretty good at 26dB compaired to 23dB for Walkers. They probably work good doubled up with earplugs, but again, I have no experience with these.
Of course the best hearing protection can be achieved by using passive system, but looks like this is not the case here.
We always compromise something to get the better result on something else.
So beside Walkers and Prohear, based on requirements from OP, these are manufacturers I recommend:
Axil (tested and these are ok, but didn’t work for me, gunshot cutting wasn’t as good as I expected)
ISO Tunes (tested and their products work for me)
MuffTech (I don’t use muffs anymore, so I never testes these. But these were recommended to me several times by people who care about their ears)
Not to belabor the criticality of your choice of hearing protection, but the loudness of a gunshot typically ranges between 140dB to 190dB.
85dB is generally considered a “safe” hearing range.
Even the BEST hearing protection combination of muffs plus in-ear plugs can only hope to reduce gunshot noise by a maximum of about 32-35dB, which STILL makes gunshot noise dangerous to hearing, especially over time. It may not seem like your hearing is being affected, but it is.
As shooters, we are ALL compromising our hearing, it’s just a matter of degrees. (And time. Hopefully, we don’t lose our hearing before we die, but we can SLOW DOWN hearing loss with our choices!)
You are 100% correct, Ron. I can’t wear anything in my ear, including foam, but do have a pair of old 3M muffs which are deafening. I still wear them on occasion, yet would like a pair of good electronic ones.
Going to try the Axil Trackr Blu first since I found a 15% coupon (CDUOS15) online. Muff Tech looks like a possibility, too, if I can get past giggling like a 12 year old boy over the name. Will let y’all know.