Four kids, 12-14; what do you do?

Oh boy and I do mean boys. This is something to think about as a EDC person and would a persons age stop you?
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Play stupid games win stupid prizes.

Hard to know exactly what one would do unless one is there.

But food for thought.

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I’ve made up my mind that everyone’s fair game once they threaten my wife and kids.

But, acting exactly as I thought I would is another matter.

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Grave bodily harm or imminent death, age doesn’t factor in!
A 10 year old with a gun and intent is just as deadly as a 32 year old drunk with intent and crowbar!

Don’t ever let that innocent look fool you! You hesitate, you die!


I was once invincible!

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Wonder how many times they’ve been through the courts? Definitely ain’t the first time out thuggin.

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We have discussed this topic before, not the first time, not the last.
I hope I never have to make the choice and not hesitate if I do. :thinking:

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– Three boys shot…
– Really?
– Three teens …
– Be honest!
– 3 armed Tren de Aragua soldiers attack a man in his home.

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Young kids shot
3 boys shot
3 children shot
3 minors shot

Journalism :roll_eyes:
How about…

Three Armed Young Males

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I sure hope to never face such a situation but if I did I suspect I would be more focused on the guns in their hands and their words and actions than on trying to figure out how old they might be.

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It’s been a tactic around here for a long time. Send 14-17 years old in to do the job, even if arrested they are out at the age of 18…

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Just to get this off my chest and put things in a bit of perspective. In Vietnam the Viet Cong would kidnap young children, boys and girls. Brainwash and indoctrinate them, then teach them how to hold a hand grenade with the pin pulled, but keep the activation handle closed until they walked into a group of American soldiers. Then they were to drop the hand grenade blowing up themselves and as many soldiers as possible. These kids were maybe 8 to 10 years old. I was with two other Marines in Da Nang on a pass. A young boys headed toward us and we could see that he was holding a hand grenade. We yelled for him to stop and Vietnamese to stop him. Finally, one of the Marines with me had to draw his sidearm and shoot the boy who then dropped the hand grenade killing himself and 2 Vietnamese close to him. That Marine, a member of my team and a friend, could never get over being forced to kill that young boy and committed suicide 10 years after we came home. Yes, it’s a matter of protecting yourself and your loved ones. Just also consider what affect that will have on you and seek the counseling you may need to put it in perspective if that ever happens to you.

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Yes you have and we have gotten a bunch of new people here. I wanted to open their mindset up to that possibility. We all talk it but until we run it over and over again in our minds; what will we do?

Call me a softy but I’ve had to come to terms with hunting and killing animals. Having it drilled into my head from a very young age killing anything is wrong. That’s one reason I train with targets with life like pictures. I still know it’s paper but I’m getting used to putting holes in a human picture hoping it will help.

Edit: what was that true life sniper movie of the guy in the ME? He had to shoot kids that were carrying weapons.

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I believe that was American Sniper (Chris Kyle).

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You have to accept the fact that protecting yourself and your loved ones may involve committing acts that might seem morally repugnant.

I was a military contractor in Afghanistan for 2 years back around the start of the O’bummer administration. One thing I often saw was teenage boys driving VBIEDs, trying to kill coalition troops and staff. Or, so it seemed, but things are not always as they seem. The Taliban would scour the remote villages looking for candidates, that low IQ teenaged boy who would never amount to much. The Taliban would approach the family and offer to “buy” the lad. They would tell the family that the boy would be a driver for them. The family would be given several years of average pay for the boy, so they were happy. The boy would be well treated until they were ready to use him.

The boy would be taught to drive, and maybe for a while even used as a driver, but one day he would be told that he needed to deliver a vehicle to the military base, or US Embassy, or whatever target. The vehicle would be filled with hidden expolsives. A following vehicle would have a remote trigger. As the vehicle pulled into the target security gate, it would be detonated. If the vehicle was deterred from entering the gate (as often happened at the US Embassy) it would be detonated on the road. Either way, the boy died.

If you thought about the moral implications of protecting the gate, you are going to die. It wasn’t the boy’s fault, but if he got past a certain point you had to use deadly force.

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At FASTER level 1 they showed a video called cubs of the caliphate. I don’t believe the general public can access the video. It’s ISIS propaganda of young children “clearing” buildings shooting victims that have been tied up. It’s the most disturbing content I’ve ever seen.

After showing the video, the instructors asked, when is one of these kids gonna walk across our porous southern border and enroll in your school?

I think it was after this video that one of the class participants got up and walked out and quit the class.

I tell my gun guy friends that when you make the choice to strap on that gun, there are certain demons that you have to face ahead of time in your mind.

I also recommend the work of Dave Grossman to force yourself to think through the aftermath of a lethal force encounter.

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Darn, lethal force wins again, what no pepper spray??? LOL

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Young males armed with what “looked like” handguns? LOL

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This :point_up_2:t4: won’t forget my first CCW instructor who had friends in LE like that. Had.
He said, “if after a shooting incident you don’t feel remorse, something’s wrong with you.”
It’s OK to feel some guilt. Seek help.

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