Do You Keep Shooting?

What is a maximum?
:joy:

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empty the firearm???

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empty_my_guns

Like this?
Mission accomplished - multiple threats stopped :grin:

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weeeellll… a bit of judicious aiming might be good thing??? :laughing:

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Gratitude, hallelujah, and eureka.

Yet another good reason not to be negative, bully, or intimidate. Not even soft cyber crime pays off. Hope I never destroy a single cell of another, and I pray I don’t lose any brain cells out of stress or frustration from a forum. Stress is the real killer.

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yeah… but unfortunately this is what I’m seeing at the most of advanced classes when people try to shoot under stress… :grimacing:

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My first thought is you’re not in the military anymore, so you have to understand and adapt to the civilian world. If a prosecutor thinks they can prove you continued shooting after the threat was over, then you could be charged with excessive force especially if there are witnesses and security cameras are everywhere even if there were no viable witnesses. Even if the prosecutor can’t prove it, you’ve probably had to have legal representation which is not cheap, not to mention bail, expert witnesses, etc. I would also be very careful about what I post on social media, i.e., like your comments here. I’m not criticizing just offering advice.

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My opinion is it is wrong to keep shooting after one knows the threat is stopped. It seems like one is making an emotional decision instead of a rational one. In my book that is wrong. Emotional people shouldn’t have guns if they can’t control their emotions. I think it should be part of training to control our emotions and not let our emotions control us and be rational. Sumtin like dat.

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Agreed, but, when your adrenaline is at 200% you may not realize the thread has stopped.

Food for thought.

Hth

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That is why we/I train so I don’t let my emotions in the fight. I also train my emotions in other ways.

I also train my emotion while driving. It is basically a constant thing. The more one does it the easier it gets. It is like muscle memory.

How do you know the threat is gone?
I like how people here think they’re gonna be cool calm and collected.
shoot one round and see if they have neutralized the threat and then if you haven’t you then shoot one more and then wait and see if that worked, because with no emotion that’s what you would do…

Because you’ll get more jail time added if you use more rounds and as necessary.???

Are you truly an expert? How do you know what’s necessary?

Oh, they were already dead after your first round,
You should’ve known that, but you shot him eight more times, you need more jail time. Lol

don’t let your training turn into pre-meditation.

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Your mind will tell you. I have never been in a real gun fight I can only imagine. That is why I train to to stop the threat not kill. Training is all mental. One’s body will not do something the mind has not told it to do. Even if it is subconsciously or unconsciously. Again this is my heart felt position how we should train. I would ask someone to take my advice that is comfortable with it. I am speaking from a responsibly armed American point of view.

In the academy, I was taught to shoot more than one round. I was taught to keep shooting until the threat is neutralized.
As far as you know, the bad guy is playing possum to dry you out.
So your mind doesn’t know if the threat has been neutralized.

The instructor also said that dead people cannot testify against you in a court of law.

The instructor also said there is no shoot to wound or a warning shot .
There is no shoot to make them go boo-hoo, you shoot them to kill them with the use of deadly force or you don’t shoot.

If I’m shooting at you, my intent is to use deadly force.

You can attempt to be PC in the attempt to avoid cross examination and if you’re training to wound, leave your gun at home.
Because you do not understand the use of deadly force.

I have made a decision that I will not let a bad guy have the benefit of the doubt.

If I have to pull my gun, my intent is to use deadly force and deadly force it shall be.

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Yes I agree deadly force. There is alway the chance off the perpetrator dying when deadly force is used. My intent is to stop the threat when using deadly force not to kill.

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Don’t get caught up in semantics.

And maybe rereading your states definition on the use of deadly force, familiarizing ourselves with what the words that they use mean.

No one will use the word ā€œkillā€ because of the murderous tone it may set or be perceived in its use.
Instead, we use words like neutralize, eliminate
Or stop.

What a PC state we live in..,

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Isn’t that semantics?

So you are saying stop means kill. Not to me from a moral standpoint.
I have no problem killing if someone is trying to murder me. Morally it is not my intent.
That is my story and I am sticking to it .
I hope you are not taking my views as a debate. These are my options.

To be honest.. that’s a wrong thinking.
I know you must say ā€œstop not killā€ā€¦ but reality is that you have to be mentally prepared to kill .. or let use better words - take someone’s life.
If you are not prepared for this your mind may freeze the moment you decide to pull the trigger.

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I agree we don’t know what we are going to do until we do it, we can only mentally prepare. It is easier for me to show kindness then (for lack of a better word) hate. If someone is trying to murder me I don’t think they don’t expect me to defend myself. They have to be ready to die. I am showing them kindness by killing them. That is what makes it easy for me to kill if that is the only way to stop the threat.

Well, shooting like that Tex, I sure hope you brought some extra ā€œdrop guns for all those bystanders who got gapped in amongst all those rounds being thrown about indiscriminately, pretty sure random wildlife caught some of that to. So have room in the freezer at home also

:joy::rofl:

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