The “dangerous or deadly weapon” phrase in my post was quoted directly from the North Las Vegas legal code. In my inexpert opinion I suspect that most jurisdictions will consider any tool a person chooses to use that can inflict death or sever bodily harm to be a dangerous or deadly weapon.
I have access to several tools that meet that definition if they were to end up being put into use to intentionally harm another human being. Whether that harm was due to a legal self defense incident or an illegal attack on an innocent victim.
People need to understand that sometimes we have to use force to defend ourselves. Whenever we use force there is a chance that someone will become severely harmed or dead. That is not (or at least should not be) our goal when trying to stop a threat. But when faced with an imminent threat to ourselves or other innocents it is a likely outcome.
I don’t think we should be worried about whether or not people are scared by the term deadly weapon. We should be more concerned with educating people to the fact that sometimes potentially deadly force is needed to save the lives of innocent people.
I have respect for you. I don’t have respect for your opinion that a firearm is a deadly weapon. I do have respect for your opinion that an innocent person can get hurt or killed if they don’t recognize that a firearm can be a deadly weapon. We are responsibly armed Americans. We carry firearms for the good they can do. I do realize that some people carry firearms to be used as deadly weapons. We use firearms to save lives because of the people that use them as deadly weapons. Are you starting to see what side I am on here? I am on the side that wants to carry weapons to save lives. I think you are too. Let’s not give any credit to the people that want to carry them as deadly weapons.
It’s not my opinion, please scroll up in this thread and see the many references I have provided. You clearly have not read the thread yet if you think this is merely my opinion.
If you would like I can repost the references and quotes, would that help?
Would you rather see the laws, the lawer’s statements, or the expert’s experts statements? Or shall I repost all of them?
I do not think this is just your opinion. Unfortunately this is the opinion of many people I have respect for. I would say the same to them as I do to you. I am optimistic that people will realize that guns are used by responsibly armed against people that use them as deadly weapons.
I will remain optimistic that you will get some training and education before carrying so that you fully comprehend the handgun you carry one day is in fact a deadly weapon.
I suggest starting with the three books I linked above, by Mas Ayoob, USCCA, and Tom Givens. You also may consider messaging the USCCA network attorney I quoted who states a firearm is a deadly weapon and ask him why he said that.
In my opinion, the “deadly weapon” definition is a liberal word trap. Language matters.
A gun is a tool. If it is used for immoral purposes it can be considered a deadly weapon. The same can be said for a hammer, a baseball bat, or a kitchen knife. Liberals want this definition in the law books because it gets the public thinking all guns are dangerous. Liberals need the public to think this way so they can ban or further regulate “deadly weapons.”
All very good advice. Don’t get me wrong. I do think a handgun in the hands of an irresponsibly armed person is a deadly weapon. We are responsibly armed people.
Please don’t take it personally. If you take it personally you will see them as insults. They are disagreements of people’s personal opinions. The forum is for people expressing their opinions. There is always room for improvement. I think if they looked at the logic they would change their minds. I respect that you are standing up for them. We are not insulting them or you for that matter. I don’t think they would take them as insults.
In Nevada, a deadly weapon is any object that can cause serious bodily harm or death. This includes firearms, knives, explosives, and other items that are not traditionally considered weapons.
What counts as a deadly weapon?
Any instrument, device, or object that is inherently dangerous
Any weapon, device, instrument, or material that could cause bodily harm or death
Attempts or threats of causing bodily harm or death
Examples of deadly weapons vehicles, blunt instruments, broken glass bottles, and trained attack dogs.
How is deadly weapon classification used?
The classification of a weapon can elevate a charge to a more severe level
This can trigger substantial penalty enhancements
The circumstances determine whether an item qualifies as a deadly weapon
Assault with a deadly weapon
Assault with a deadly weapon in Nevada is classified as a category B felony
Doesn’t matter who you agree with or don’t. It will be the government (law enforcement and prosecutors) that decides what a dangerous or deadly weapon is. You get to spend your money on your lawyer to defend yourself in a trial where the other side draws essentially unlimited funds from taxpayer dollars, and hope that a government judge or a conscripted jury agrees with you.
I want them to agree with me. That weapons are for saving lives. That is why I am pushing the narrative. If the judges and lawyers were pushing the narrative we would have no trouble in court. The only responsibly armed that would have trouble would be the one with deadly weapons. Unless the judge actually knew when we said deadly weapon, we meant life saving Tool. I see no point in going to deadly weapon in the first place. Unless somebody actually murdered somebody else with a deadly weapon.
A person responsibly armed with a firearm is responsibly armed with a deadly weapon.
So I don’t know where you get "The only responsibly armed that would have trouble would be the one with deadly weapons. " from…but I am sorry to hear that you believe being responsibly armed with a gun would be trouble.
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