Conceal carry this particular SAO with safety disengaged?

I’ll do that!

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never assume…

5lb of fluff doesn’t feel the same as 5lb of steel…

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Yeah but they are both 5 pounds. 5 lbs is always 5 lbs. What I was assuming is # meant lbs.

:joy_cat: So, I’m old. “#” is the “pound sign”. Yeah, I used it to mean pounds.

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If this topic can stick round for a while, it might get a lot more hits. Others got tons of experience compared to me. I recall a while back, there had been several comments on safetys, one racked in the chamber or not, Semi’s Vs revolvers; even relating it to holsters.

I think it’s unique to the individual’s preferences, education, training, trigger pull weight - but for me, I never could like the idea of a safety button/lever on EDC handguns. I like that my factory setting on my semi was already a light trigger, because of that I never felt comfortable carrying chambered, but that is just me.

If one must carry un-chambered, maybe also practice racking one handed, ie via belt/hip, shoe, your car bumper, fence post, table, a tree, a rock. IDK.

But I rotate between semi’s and revolvers.

Lately, I’ve been afraid of leather holsters, especially for semi’s. Had a bad dream that my leather got so warn that as I went to re-holser it, a piece of the leather bumped up against he trigger. Been liking my kydex material holsters which retain same stiffness and never bend.

I got some smallies which fit in a pocket holster, thus that soft supple black pocket or leather holster works for me as well - albeit for my smaller CCW’s.

Good luck.

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Weight on the scale is not the same as feeling that weight on your finger.
If you don’t feel the difference you will always treat every trigger the same. Weight is not a factor how hardly or easily trigger breaks.

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I hate all multi-meaning characters. Weight is measured in lb, so trigger pull for me will always be noted by lb, not #.

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Yeah , weight on your finger is the same as weight on your finger. Lets compare apples to apples and triggers to triggers. Now weight and wait are different.

Voilà

Yeah, someone pointed out that “trigger pull” is more than just the weight. I’ll shoot the guns at the range and compare how they feel.

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Don’t fall for it. Trigger pull is trigger pull. Trigger pull is measured in distance and pull. Distance is measured in inches or millimeters and weight is measured in pounds or kilograms.

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Measuring trigger pull weight involves determining the amount of force required to pull the trigger and fire the firearm

. This is a crucial aspect of firearm handling, especially for accuracy and safety.

Methods for Measuring Trigger Pull:

There are several common methods for measuring trigger pull:

  • Trigger Pull Gauges: These are the most widely used devices, providing accurate and consistent readings. They come in various types:
    • Spring Gauges/Dial Gauges: These are mechanical devices with a spring and indicator that moves as you pull the trigger.
    • Digital Force Gauges: These electronic gauges offer a digital readout and can often record multiple readings and provide an average.
    • Automated Trigger Pull Systems: These are more sophisticated systems designed for precise and automated measurements.
  • Static Weights (Dead Weights or Arsenal Weights): This method involves using a system of calibrated weights to determine the pull force. The firearm is held vertically, and increasing weights are added to the trigger until the sear releases.
  • Spring Scales: Similar to using weights, a spring scale is attached to the trigger and pulled until the firearm discharges, with the required force being recorded.

How to Use a Trigger Pull Gauge (General Method):

  1. Safety First: Ensure the firearm is unloaded and pointed in a safe direction.
  2. Cock the Firearm: If it’s a single-action trigger, cock the firearm. For a double-action, there’s no need to cock it first.
  3. Position the Gauge: Place the gauge on the trigger, typically at the center or bottom.
  4. Pull Slowly and Consistently: Apply slow and steady pressure straight back, keeping the gauge parallel to the bore line.
  5. Record the Reading: Note the weight at which the trigger releases.
  6. Repeat for Consistency: Take multiple readings to ensure accuracy and consistency, as different leverage forces can lead to varying results. Digital gauges often have a feature to average readings.

Note: For adjustable triggers, measuring the trigger pull with a gauge is essential to setting the desired weight. Also, some gauges, like the Wheeler Professional Digital Trigger Gauge, might have specific techniques for consistent readings, like placing your finger over the sensor.

That’s the mistake in your thinking.
There is not such thing as the same trigger in ‘striker fired’ handgun and ‘hammer fired SAO’ handgun…

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Feel is the most important factor in knowing your firearm.

Once you feel the trigger you will not care about “trigger weight” anymore.

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@Robert1246 , if this is how you get your experience

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there is no reason to continue discussion about trigger weight, feel and firearm safety.

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Only one mistake. I’ll take it. Don’t tell anybody.

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Isn’t that what the forum is about? Being responsibly armed, firearm safety. What else is there to discuss?

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Politics? :grimacing:

eee… just kidding…

However my point is that we shouldn’t stick to “dictionary” explanations which usually has nothing with proper understanding your firearm. Yes, we use terms to define something, but once it comes to understand our relationship between us and our firearm, we must use our senses, not written words by somebody else.

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That’s what I thought. We can’t make stuff up. The gun in question has a firing pin block safety which makes it safe to carry in condition 0. Isnt what this is about or have we moved to something else?

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I am not a 1911 collector or aficionado, so i have never compared any of the many government issue (GI), basic, high-end, and custom 1911s. I have shot only two, a Colt Grand National Match that my father in law customized and accurized for competition, and an Auto Ordnance WWII replica 1911. The accurized Colt is sweet, but has such a light competition trigger I have had several unintended discharges on the range (always while pointing downrange toward the target). I got the AO model both to feel a close-to-GI model and to have a 1911 to carry that I would not mind having confiscated if ever in a shoot situation.

I love shooting them both.

I will say, living in the state where both Wilson Combat and Nighthawk build high-end and custom 1911s, I would like to try their offerings someday.

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