California’s AB 1127: A Trojan Horse Ban on GLOCK Handguns Disguised as Public Safety

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That’s a ridiculous bill/ban.

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Exactly like Illinois just put forward there. These D states coordinate their 2A attscks.

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Sounds like another law to stop people from breaking the law. When one goes into a skid in a car turn in the direction of the skid. Having a Jesus moment. What kind of dressing would you like with that.

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“In simple terms: if a gun could be converted with a part that is already illegal to possess, the gun itself may soon be illegal to sell in California.”.

Very short step from there to:

In simple terms: if a gun could be used to do something that is already illegal , the gun itself may soon be illegal to posses in California.

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Yes, on the other hand if a gun can be used to save lives of innocent people. How many more lives can a modified gun save.

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This is the key sentence in the article: "“No novice should be able to convert their pistol into a DIY machine gun with just a 3D printer and a screwdriver within minutes.” Glocks, more than any other gun, are easily converted to full auto. The reality is that there is no practical way to prevent people from getting glock switches. To say that we should go after the people selling switches is the same as saying we should just stop the sale of illegal drugs. Correct me if I’m wrong, but what other handgun can be as easily converted to full auto as a Glock? That said, the language of the law is too broad - other handguns that could fall under this law are not easily convertible to full auto.

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I think the key take away is no law is going to stop a criminal from turning a Glock into a machine gun. Why should the law stop law abiding responsibly armed people. We have laws to protect people not keep people from protecting themselves.

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So are you in favor of banning Glocks, and similar guns, because someone can easily (subjective term) do something illegal with them? Your post certainly seems to read that way.

Yes or no question.

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As I said - “Correct me if I’m wrong, but what other handgun can be as easily converted to full auto as a Glock?” So, am I wrong?

Why can’t Glock just redesign their hangun so a switch doesn’t work? Problem solved.

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A lot of things could be changed to make them safer…Then they lose their appeal to a lot of potential buyers… The goal is to sell weapons. Not make safe weapons. Weapons are supposed to be inherently dangerous. Also if glock made them harder to convert. People would just move on to the next model and so on… What the best change they could make to a weapon is the attitude of the person using it…

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I don’t personally know anything about converting handguns to full auto. I’m not doing that. It’s illegal, and unnecessary.

Regardless, what difference does it make what it takes to make any gun illegal? Anyone can take a rifle or shotgun and shorten the barrel and it’s illegal. All it takes is a hacksaw. You can drink a bunch of beer and illegally drive your car. You can dump your trash on the side of the road, even though it’s illegal. Anyone can do about a million different illegal things, with common everyday objects, but no one talks of banning those objects.

You didn’t answer my question, but just asked a different question that implies support for this law.

This causes me another question. Why in the world do you come to a Pro2A website by and for firearms enthusiasts, and hold a pro gun control position? Why are you here?

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@Joseph488 This is not illegal and it is in my mind fully auto… FRT are so sweet..

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Maybe they just need to pass a law banning people who would do something illegal! Yeah, that will work.

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Looks like a lot of fun. And expensive!! (ammo, not the trigger).

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There is no problem in the first place. The challenge is staying ahead of the technology of the criminals.

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The problem that needs to be solved is the anti-2A activists that are registered as Democrats (there are pro-2A Democrats throughout the Country against gun control not just Republicans) is what needs to be solved and that goes for all anti-2A activists across the Country who are the cause. They’ve organized into groups like Everytown, Moms demand action, Students demand action, and other gun control groups, including anti-2A leaderships in state government that back them, especially those who have inserted themselves into Blue states pushing these agendas with no respect to the American US Constitution (even raising their right hands lying while taking the Oath), State Constitutions, nor Supreme Court rulings.

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It’s been said here before, but it bears repeating. Anti 2A activists use fear to get attention. It feels like they want to legislate based off of what they fear they would do if they were in that situation. Or feed off of their worst motivations and legislate in a horrible game of what if.

But that’s the problem right there. Their are a lot of scared and lazy people who want the .gov to nanny state them.

The problem is that there are a lot of places to move to if you want a Nanny State to take care of you from cradle to grave. But if you want freedom and liberty the USA is it. There’s no where else. This is it. If we go down as a Country that’s it that’s the fat lady getting ready to sing.

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Don’t worry about the fat lady Trump is going to take care of her. The last time she sang was at his inauguration. That was game over for the anti 2A. The thing is we have to let Trump know our pro 2A sentiment. The more people we can convince to be pro second amendment the better. That way Trump will know what the will of the people is.

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Want public safety? BAN GANGS.
Why don’t Leftists ban gangs? They drop the population levels, something Leftists like. And they make people scared and more easily controlled.
Can we please deport a Democrat with each illegal alien?
That would fix more in a shorter time.

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