California May Soften Gun Crime Laws, Citing Impact On People Of Color

I literally can’t believe what I am reading.

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“People of color privilege” replaces white privilege.

:man_facepalming:t4:

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Systemic racism.

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The latest episode of “Love After Lockup”

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Nothing against the normal people in California, but wtf are they doing over there!!! That’s history I’m just biting at the bit to tell my future grandchildren… "Hey, kids! Gather round, it’s story time. Today’s story is about a monumental page in our country’s history… the time California minimized penalties for the use of a firearm during the commission of a crime! What a genius idea these people had!.. "

What happened to if you can’t do the time, don’t do the crime? I bet our founding fathers just rolled over in their graves

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@Levi2

There’s a recall effort. Will it amount to anything? Is California really waking up?
Hard to tell. By end of next year, you could be asking the same question. Wtf are we doing over here?

Sad that this recent development could mean open season on the law abiding and law enforcement.

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With all the people coming to Texas to escape ridiculous policies and whatnot, I can’t say it wouldn’t happen. I’d love to have the ability to say “Don’t make my state the one you left” and actually have someone listen, but I know no one would listen. It’s sickening to think that all the laws in California can’t prevent gun violence, so they resort to making it no big deal…

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So committing crimes with illegally acquired guns is acceptable behavior in CA but if you want to own or carry a gun to protect yourself from the government sanctioned criminals then the government will send you to jail. Typical CA “logic”.

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YGTBSM

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I believe that is why states “legalized” Marijuana, so why not for crimes in which firearms were used. Might as well make it, if fewer than x amount of rounds were fired, or mag size of less than x, there is no crime, just like Marijuana. :rofl:

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This seems insane on the face of it, and the one-sidedness of the proposal is bolstered by the fact that the list of groups supporting it are entirely made up of convicted criminals (or their loved ones) who had their sentences enhanced under these laws.

There is, however, one question to be asked to determine if this proposal should be taken seriously, to whit: Can the proponents and supporters of this bill prove–PROVE-- through documentation that these sentencing enhancements have been applied to convicted POC more often than they have been applied to non-POC (whites), and to what degree? IF the answer is “yes”, then that is a serious issue which needs to be addressed immediately. If the answer is “no”, and the enhanced sentences are evenly applied to all persons convicted of crimes which fall under the statute, then there is no question of fairness or abuse to be addressed.

One can argue that the entire concept of the enhanced sentences is flawed, unreasonable, inhumane, or ineffective, but racial inequity or biases would be moot. One would have to challenge the law on its own objective merits rather than on an emotional, “social justice” standpoint. For instance, instead of predicating the sentence enhancements on the use of a firearm during the commission of a crime, (as if that were the only way to cause great harm or death to a victim) and relate them to the degree of harm inflicted on the victim, regardless of the means? IE, why should a robber who threatens his victim with a gun get a longer sentence than one who clubs his victim with a crowbar?

Just some thoughts.

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I live next door to CA, I’m not feeling very comfortable anymore.:rage:

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I live in the same Country as CA and NY. Worse yet I am within 150 miles of Chicago. I feel prepared but very uncomfortable!

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I lived in Chicago for 13 years, I felt safer there.

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My condolences. I commuted into the city for five years, that was bad enough. Drove up I55 then on surface roads to get to 2122 W. Taylor to the VARO. It was actually much safer then before Beetle Juice became Mayor.

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Up next, California softens drug laws, citing impact on drug users.

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The needle just flew off the politicians are insane gauge. :scream:

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The first Big Step is to “Recall Newsome “ and vote in a good Governor; then work on voting out the rest of the hammerheads.

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California is a lawless, communist state. If you are guilty of a crime, especially a felony you should be prosecuted under the law period! These corrupt politicians who are criminals themselves are not capable of enforcing the law.

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