Biden White House tries to craft gun executive orders that can't be undone

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Know this won’t make me popular here but I would add Trump to that collage. He is the last one to use an executive order to ban a gun part pulling the door wide open for Biden’s future attempts.


“…according to aides and gun safety groups.”

[rant on]

Can I just say that I am sick and tired of how this term is used by the media, and who it’s applied to? These activists are not “gun safety groups.” WE are a gun safety group, as are all the various gun ownership organizations that offer classes teaching responsible firearms ownership, and that help new gun owners understand what gun ownership entails.

The so called “gun safety groups” that the media constantly refers to are anti-rights organizations who routinely show that they know little to nothing about guns.

I’m going to stop typing now, before I start truly expressing my sentiments about this.

[rant off]


In the article it talks about executive action, executive actions are weak and bear little weight, they are not in the federal registry, executive orders can be challenged in court and are legally binding, as far as ghost guns, it will probaly be tied up in court, according to the ATF, they don’t consider 80 percent lowers to be firearms under the GCA act of 1968, all shootings were done with legally purchased firearms, back ground checks, he cannot sign an order to strengthen background checks, he does not have the athority to change the current law, he can sign an executive action to have the ATF execute existing laws, it was tried under Obama, and didn’t work, congress makes the laws, not the executive branch, they are trying to push executive orders, but they are going to save face with ecexutive actions, either way it is sicking to see our constitutional rights being infringed, espcially the 2nd amendment, it is totally unconstitutional period, democrats and and anti gunners need to understand that guns will not go away in this country,


We simply “will not comply”!!! :us:


Agreed, seems like some got emboldened after Mr. Trump wanted to get active on restrictions and even now the 6th has found the whole bump stock thing bogus.


Any “Executive Order” can be undone. The only reason Biden’s may not be able to is because the Congress and Supreme Court have abdicated their duty as co-equal branches of government. If we as a nation are not willing to defend our Constitution, it is not worth the paper it is written on.


Article 1, Section 9, of the U.S. Constitution states:
“No Bill of Attainder or ex post facto Law shall be passed”

What is Ex Post Facto?
" Every law that makes criminal an act that was innocent when done, or that inflicts a greater punishment than the law annexed to the crime when committed, is an ex post facto law within the prohibition of the Constitution."
Source: EX POST FACTO LAWS | U.S. Constitution Annotated | US Law | LII / Legal Information Institute

Additionally, Executive Orders only apply to those employed by the Executive Branch of the government. Yes, federal law enforcement agencies are under the Executive Branch, and may be ordered to enforce certain EOs, but EOs cannot force private companies to stop producing non-firearm (as designated by the BATFE) products. Banning so-called “Ghost Guns” (ie, 80% lower receivers) would mean that all pieces of plastic that are shaped like pistol and rifle lower receivers would be illegal. Banning the production of 3D printed parts is the same thing as banning violent ideation and the subsequent access to any implement that might be used as a weapon. I think we already have laws against malicious violence and murder upon others.

The Big Picture is that the previous “Assault Weapons Ban” (AWB) was grossly ineffective at achieving its purpose, which was reducing firearms violence. It was such a failure that it was allowed to “sunset” (ie, die) without so much as a second thought. The Brady Bill was also a failure, because while it mandated waiting periods and background checks, it failed to provide funding for every law enforcement agency to do the background checks. So waiting periods were begun and ended without background checks, because the law enforcement agency in question either didn’t have the time, manpower, or interest or didn’t have the funding to do so. Thus the waiting periods were ineffective at their purpose as well. This paints a recurring picture that the Socialist Democrats don’t know what they are doing more than tossing out platitudes and “feel good” legislation.


Here are the six actions, from the White House “fact sheet.”

The Justice Department, within 30 days, will issue a proposed rule to help stop the proliferation of “ghost guns.”

The Justice Department, within 60 days, will issue a proposed rule to make clear when a device marketed as a stabilizing brace effectively turns a pistol into a short-barreled rifle subject to the requirements of the National Firearms Act.

The Justice Department, within 60 days, will publish model “red flag” legislation for states.

The Administration is investing in evidence-based community violence interventions.

The Justice Department will issue an annual report on firearms trafficking.

The President will nominate David Chipman to serve as Director of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms.