Bear vs 10mm and Tachypsychia

Oh wow. I think you just taught us a valuable lesson.

My “hot sauce” of choice does more of a straight gel pattern but luckily we only tested it on a non windy day.

You just reminded me why I was spooked a couple days ago. I saw some Bison on a conservation land, Only thing separating him from me was 10 feet and a few strands of electric wire fencing. I could hear his grunts and smell him. I never felt so small that windy day.

Got vid, but too large a memory to post. Camera malfunctioned, I almost cried.

Never had to deal with Bison, thank God, we had enough to deal with with moose and bear.

We did more official tests with the spray and decided to issue our team leaders rem 870’s instead of the spray.

Air force and the army upper echelon didnt approve but good thing we didnt ask them

Recently encountered a mama black bear on my morning walk with my little dog and there with her pups they were behind a line of tall shrubbery/bushes the mama bear with her cubs and the cubs ran to the wood line and my little dog (on the leash) charged the mama bear and she hesitated as she lunged then she stopped mid-lunge and she turned around to see and ran to her cubs. I had a stun gun in my pocket that’s always been a great bear deterrent here but I fumbled and just could NOT get my hand into my pocket fast enough. Close call and feeling very fortunate that it didn’t go down the way I feared .

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Recently encountered a mama black bear on my morning walk with my little dog not two weeks ago in Asheville NC and when walking up the gravel drive there with her pups was a nice sized mama black bear and they were behind a line of tall shrubbery/bushes the mama bear with her cubs and the cubs ran to the wood line and my little dog (on the leash) charged the mama bear and she hesitated as she lunged then she stopped mid-lunge and she turned around to see and ran to her cubs. I had a stun gun in my pocket that’s always been a great bear deterrent here but I fumbled and just could NOT get my hand into my pocket fast enough. Close call and feeling very fortunate that it didn’t go down the way I feared. I wonder do people who conceal carry do they ever have this problem when it matters most? I feel as if I had a sidearm holstered owb I could have popped off a defensive or better yet a warning shot but getting the noise deterrent from my pants pocket just wasn’t happening.

Sow with cubs is a bad situation, especially if she feels threatened. Glad it ended up OK for you. Hope you learned something from that incident

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I did. And it’s one I’d learned a year or two back to pay better attention to my dog because she knew, she smelled them in advance but I disregarded her cues and I’m focusing on her behavior much better now. I hope my experience can help one person or at least encourage you to do the same, always listen to our horse or dog .

Looks like the guy chose the wrong ammo…

My 10mm is carry most often, I keep the mag with 180gr JHP plus a spare mags so 31rds of jhp and a second mag just for 4 legged critters being 125gr solid copper deep penetrating TUI ammo…

JHP in a bear is probably not going to penetrate enough to really hit vitals…

I just added to my list of cartidges of interest to me. I need to add some Buffalo Bore …

Did you consider any of the fluted Norma or Underwood in your TUI selection?

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Underwood is a good ammo.

There was some testi g at my range for carry ammo where the instructor brought ballistics gel and invited people to bring various ammo they carry or are interested in to be tested…

The 9mm special ammo I bought was TUI, another person brought underwood extreme penetrator, between the 2, both solid copper, they went the same distance but the TUI ammo had a bigger cavity and when it was pulled from the gel, was standing upright about an inch into the next block (115gr). It was getting rather dark when it came time to test in the gel and when the TUI hit the block, there was a flash like a camera flash. From what I could tell. It flashed from the TUI round tumbling in the gel…

The TUI ammo also has a special place for me as, Paul Harrell, may he rest in peace, always kept a spare mag of 9mm TUI for his Beretta 92….

I got to know Paul Harrell a fair bit, enough to where he knew me by name… Good test results in the gel plus Paul carried a spare mag of it, good enough for me to keep an extra mag or revolver strips of it for back woods carry….

Unofficially, ive seen multiple videos of the 9mm making it through soft body armor.

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