I think I’ll keep neither and and just make the ch ch noise with my mouth when the intruder gets close. If I train hard enough I can reach the level of that guy from Police Academy and Space Balls! Kidding aside, something is better then nothing and both will work. Shotguns cheaper and a nine milly AR is most practical.
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I thought the current president settled this debate. He says you don’t need an AR, you just need to shoot a shotgun into the air.
You could also learn to make an angry doberman growl. And don’t forget to learn the “Game Over” sound in case you’re forced to engage.
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AR style bullpup 12ga, with 00buck is within arms reach while sleeping. Went bullpup for exact reason many have mentioned, maneuverability in close quarters. There’s nothing that will continue down the hallway once a round is sent down it.
The second choice would be my edc setting on the nightstand, followed by the AR . Go to will always be the shottie inside the house.
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I’d would say first gun i grab will be used hopefully it be a large magazine so i dont run out to quick , as a trainer once said. You never have enough ammo
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Where I live, it’s gotta be a shotgun with 04 shot. Exterior walls are mediocre, but there’s good spacing between my house and others nearby. Long hallways and large open space inside. Plenty of room for a long arm.
Of course, those aren’t my first go to, but within the parameters of the question, shotgun. I’m not really concerned about the ammo capacity – if pushing 5-7 rounds of shot into intruders aren’t enough, there are much larger problems at hand here.
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Panzer arms- AR-15 platform 12ga… Win win
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I concur. In your “More” category though, I think it’s worth noting that from what I understand the noise level can be disorientating. I’m interested in a shotgun partly because I like the attribute of an effective range to cover my curtilage.
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Classic. Only Alzheimers will make me forget when he made that comment.
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I’m on the wait list for a 1301 tactical. Has your experience been as good as everything I’ve read about it?
I actually took it out again two weekends ago and got some practice with it. I swear the trigger on it is better than what I have on my DD AR-15. The felt recoil is basically as gentle as an AR, though I will say the loads I picked for the Beretta are 1300 FPS loads, which might make a difference versus shooting a 1600!FPS load. My buddy has the Benelli version and he prefers the Beretta. He thinks the length of pull is better and it’s not as heavy as the Benelli. If you’re looking for a home defense weapon, this is a good choice.
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Wouldn’t it depend on the range? Like at 5 yards the buck is gonna hit at about the size of a half dollar. The question for me being is what does the wad do?
But still a good point which is why I have a shotgun and rifle staged and ready. Also have a quick attach battle belt staged.
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Your experience is consistent with everything I’ve read / videos I watched. Thanks for taking the time to respond.
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Yeah I mostly agree. It’s important to pattern your Buck so you know what to expect at certain ranges. That wad at 7-yards and in is still the question mark for me, it doesn’t always seem to do the same thing whereas I know what to expect from the actual pellets. Thats why I think it’s important to use the same buck all the time because different vendors hell even within the same vendor different models of buck can pattern differently.
Rifle is a different scenario for sure.
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I have all three ‘handy’. The pistols are in a beside safe, and the ARs and shotguns are in a safe behing the closet door.
The drill for our family is let loose the hounds (2 Dobermans and a really dumb lab), I get the pistol and get in concealment, hand the wife a pistol, then the wife gets the long guns (her side of the bed).
I’ve trained with all of them. I think I’d prefer and ask for the .300 blackout with the light and suppressor if there’s time. A big if, although the dogs might give me some extra time.
AR is loaded with subsonics, 12 gauge is loaded with #4 buck.
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How many wives are we talking about?
(Sorry, I’m easily amused and easily confused.)
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As this thread approaches 100 replies… did we ever distinguish barrel legnths? I realize most ARs are 16", but if you had an SBR or a 20" M-16, that might affect my preference.
(My official vote is still “both.”)
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That is a factor.
My favorite HD arm right now is an AR type rifle in a pinned 13.9" configuration. It handles considerably different than my 16", though size and weight of optic is a factor as well.
I’m not opposed to the suppressed 11.5" either
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Is that the Son’s of Liberty build? I’m actually thinking about a suppressor, realized the ATF probably knows what I have as it is. The 11.5" is probably what I’m aiming for, maybe 14.5" with a mini can.
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That’s an ADM UIC. I’m still waiting on a Surefire SOCOM 556 Mini2 I paid for 1 year ago, which is supposed to end up paired with this 13.9. Then I have the 556 RC2 on an 11.5.
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My bedside gun is a Kel-Tec Sub2000 in 9mm with Glock mags and a flashlight/laser combo on it. Relatively small and lightweight and very easy to maneuver.
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