Amen brother @Richard152.
Computers are programmed to do specific things, there are no glitches. Unless it’s Windows 10 last update.
@Alexander8, so true. I work with a Cuban immigrant. He never misses an opportunity to share his horror story with clueless Americans who have no idea what awaits. He is absolutely incredulous and has told me he loses sleep at night watching our country stumble down the path of totalitarianism.
Does anybody know what happens when they declare something a public health issue (e.g. guns, racism, etc.)? I’m just curious what Biden thinks he’s going to accomplish. Not sure what it does for racism but surely it doens’t side-step the 2A.
Neither do whiners Scott… Just saying… Y’all need to suck this up and let our country heal instead of feeding the flames of division… You guys can try again in 4 years… but it is pretty clear that this was a fair/close election…Do the American thing and start planning for the next one.
Starting to get nervous are you…???






Locks keep honest people honest, and recounts/audits keep honest elections honest. Nothing to fear if it really was honest, and if there is no agreement there is a non-violent process for that as well.
But, what we really need is a common enemy. How about some proof (or even an arrogant admission) that covid was engineered and released on purpose as part of a global communist plot.
The few communist here could be swept up relatively easily and we can have a working demonstration of how good StarLink is at targeting enemy hypersonics with energy weapons and then guiding our own.
What gave you that impression Greg? There is literally nothing you could do that would make me nervous…
that said, you are laying the foundation for a very negative outcome for the future of America… and I want you to know what you are doing, and, once armed with that information, be direct about your intentions and actions…Your actions are pushing this country towards civil war… meanwhile, our enemies are watching with giant shit-eating grins on their faces as we destroy everything we built…and everything they have come to fear and respect.
Think about it.
Also, I have already told you that I’m pro recount… You chose not to pay attention because you want to believe you are being victimized… and that information counters your belief.
Ahhhhhh, the funny thing about gaslighting is how easy it is to see it once you know what you are looking for.
Kinda like when one side loots and riots and then blames the other for the violence.
I do agree however that the only ones who will benefit if this thing erupts are the enemies of free society.
But like I (and others) have already said, there is already a non-violent solution prescribed by law if both sides can not agree on the outcome of the election.
You wouldnt react to the constitutionally prescribed solution with violence and then blame others for your actions would you?
Gaslighting? Maybe read some history books and see how these things begin Greg. It’s not gaslighting to caution you to act like a responsible adult…especially on a forum that was meant for responsible-gun carrying adults…Our decisions and interactions have consequences…and those consequences add up man. Look at the war like behavior much of the right is beginning to display… driving to polling places with guns to represent force…making plans to kidnap and kill the governor of Michigan… etc … We need to cool all this escalation out if we want to maintain our global strength…Im glad we agree on that point.
Also, Joe Biden himself said that looters and rioters should be prosecuted… so have I… again you chose not to pay attention because it didn’t fit your narrative of being a victim. You need to be a victim right now because you aren’t ready to process the reality of your situation…which is that you lost an election. It also didn’t fit your narrative that we are different kinds of people… we really are not that different.
No, I wouldn’t react with violence to a constitutionally prescribed solution…but your side will when it doesn’t advance that far… especially when fueled by your irresponsible and unsupported claims…
If people would be reasonable, we could avoid what we are building momentum towards… You were worried about the stock market and your 401k… take a look if we start fighting each other… you are worried about China? take a look if we start fighting each other. You worried about Russia? Take a look when we start fighting each other… Also, take a look at what our allies do when we weaken ourselves…they are going to be lining up to take our spot. And you get a portion of the responsibility for that when it’s all said and done.
All good points, all the more reason for complete transparency and for all sides to be represented at the ballot counting table(s).
Dead voters, double/triple voters, non-citizen voters, ‘defective’ algorithms, and other illegal votes identified and delt with accordingly.
I personally will not be guilted, or name called, into accepting less than full transparency.
If anyone objects to that then…
They should be big enough to own their own choices.
What is it about a full and transparent recount/audit, or even a state for state vote in the house, that makes you think the result would be civil war?
People didn’t batten down the hatches across Beverly Hills because they thought Biden would win, if they knew how tho suck it up 4 years ago, we wouldn’t be here . If it becomes fair, there will be an unfit person in the White House. I’m not the only one laughing at this guy, the world can’t wait to seat him because it’s easier to overturn a country when incompetence runs it.
When your job has been lost and crime is the way of life. You get to suck it up, and you can call ghostbusters to maintain that wonderful quality of life that allows you to speak so freely.
I surely will never come to your aid. I am soooo good with defund, go for it, I don’t care about your neighborhoods, Minneapolis is begging for law enforcement, second biggest joke in my lifetime. I’m still laughing!
You (not personally) deserve what you get when you cheat. Maybe we should cheat next time, and burn down their neighborhoods so we can get what we want. Everyone says we are not like that. We aren’t!
I voted obama, the first time, so I believed, but when the supreme defender of our constitution surrendered it, that’s pure treason. However, I still respected the “office” of the president. These fools haven’t respected the office since 2016. Four years of enduring an AOC agenda? Can you afford $6.00, $8.00 gas and that’s just the start. “resistance”??? The middle class will be decimated, can you spell VENEZUELA?
Next time is sooner than you think. And the demise of your freedoms or closer than you think, remember only ten family members at you holiday table, could be fewer for the next holiday, soon you will be on an island. Keep one thing in mind, WE didn’t burn down a thing and we never fired a shot, however if the time shall come when we do, you’ll know it!
Never poke a bear that’s caring for it’s cubs. harris/biden are the poker. No I will not respect a cheat or a Trojan horse!
Can you say the same at this moment in time that you can suck it up, if it turns out Trump won fairly? I can see heads exploding at just the thought, and also the preparations to burn it down!
Careful, I can see the flames on your keyboard and the malice in your eyes.
On that note, if Hillary had been in office many more people would be dead, and we would be under Chinese rule, and there would be NO thanksgiving!
As soon as that incompetent swears to uphold the constitution, he should be arrested for treason!
This, exactly. We are not the ones who are being violent and destructive. WE are the ones marching to civil war? I think not. The left is doing a great job on that score.
Ask yourself this question: If Trump had won, would there have been rioting, looting, burning, assaults of police and citizens? Of course there would have been.
Are conservatives rioting and looting? No, of course not. So trying to blame the conservatives for any looming civil war is laughable and logically without merit.
What will push the conservative right over the edge is the 2A. The Biden gun plan is quite clear.
We will not be disarmed. We know that must not happen. We must not let it happen.
I agree with complete transparency… This election was more transparent than last election. Last election we were manipulated by outside influences that used our social media to serve their purpose. This election, we were aware of it and significantly reduced that practice.
Im pro looking into everything. I don’t want you to feel like you got cheated Greg. But, I also don’t know that there is anything we could do to remedy your perception of that because you are echoing a man that is being unreasonable…and you take his words as facts. I don’t know how to help with that.
I’m not calling you names.
Lastly, can we stop pretending that you weren’t on the other side of this conversation 4 years ago…telling dems to accept their loss. Suggesting it was Un-American to delay the process. ?
Let the close states be recounted. I support that. But it comes out of Trumps pocket if he’s wrong… same way if I sue you erroneously, I will be forced to pay your legal fees.
What? There were riots before Trump.
Also, the right has it’s share of villains… Timothy McVeigh anyone?
The thing is, you are branding entire groups of people with the actions of an extreme minority… which the dems have spoken out against…and the BLM movement representatives have spoken out against…
Again…you don’t recognize those words because you need to be the victim and you need to feel like you are drastically different than the mother that is marching with her child to draw attention to her fear that her child will one day die beneath the knee of a supposed protector… with the hope that YOU will care for the child that walks next to her and that will lead to change.
The right loves to fly the “don’t tread on me” flag… Is that only for white people that flag? Do you care about others that are being tread upon?
I’m a dem… I support the BLM movement. I have never met or interacted with an Antifa person…not one… and the ones Ive seen on tv are all dumb kids or social outcasts that are using a movement to serve their own purposes.
Actually I didnt engage 4 years ago. But hindsight being 20/20, that argument is all but moot in as much as 4 years of investigation and persecution have yielded zip, nadda, zilch actionable findings.
Now Bush v. Gore… I waited patiently for the courts to do their job (without threatening to change them if I didnt like the outcome)
Let the process take place, create transparency, and if the facts are irrefutably on the table then there is not much to fight about.
Bush vs Gore was literally decided by a very small amount of votes and included some weird ballots… “hanging chad”…I think we can all agree that was not the best ballot. That said, a recount happened and Bush won…done.
You are wrong about your claim that there was no outside influence on the 2016 election. Proof is available to you and has been…but you don’t want it…so Im not going to waste your time with it… I will say this though…the proof of that occurrence significantly outweighs any proof that this election has been tampered with. If you want to take the convo to email and dig into that topic, I’d welcome that. Not going to get in a tussle with you here that will likely eat up 20-30 posts and several hours of each of our time…for something you have your mind closed off to.
I’m ready to start impeachment hearings on harris/biden. Can you hear it now? China, China, China! I’m prepared to institute democratic accountability programs! Who does that?
That’s not what I call presidential! That’s a cheater and a LIAR! I’m sorry that those are virtues you choose to live by. I’ve chosen courage, honor and respect! Honor trumps cheating every time! Courage trumps incompetence! Respect trumps all! You see Trump wins!
Keep the boards up in the neighborhood, there is a small pathway to victory.
FYI as far as “don’t tread on me” that does mean everyone under the flag and the national anthem, kneeling was treading. Football, baseball etc are sports not stomping grounds for weak statements of socialism!
Do you really want to talk about virtues when you voted for Trump… and you voted for him again after knowing he had strong ties to Jeffrey Epstein and what Jeffrey Epstein had done… You voted for him after he defrauded americans through Trump University. You voted for him after many people in his cabinet and on his campaign team were convicted of crimes and sent to prison…Let’s not talk about virtues Scott…You only care about them when they serve your purpose.
Timothy McVeigh? Really?
I did not bring up race, you did. There will be a whole bunch of people of color who wont be disarmed either.
Typical, deny reality. Bring up race.
Whatever you say, but the race card is way overplayed and does nothing to help.
The left burned. We did not.