The military did not initiate that withdrawal willingly, it was a political decision. Our military is controlled by our civilian government. Our military wanted a more prudent gradual withdrawal timetable that would have allowed for force protection, and conservation of resources, equipment, especially weapons. But, Joe decided on that hasty abandonment that left our troops vulnerable.
I hate when politicians don’t listen to the military when making these decisions.
You don’t just turn tail and run, there are better ways to withdraw, there was no tactical imperative to make a haphazard withdrawal, that was totally a political choice.
I graduated from both BCT and AIT before my 18th birthday but then again, I was raised around and shot a lot of guns in my pre-teen/teen years before enlisting.
I’m sympathetic to your pov of view. But you do realize that your 41% increase through the use of statistics looks like a big scary number “until” you put the actual numbers to the increase.
There’s alot more wrong with your statement that I don’t want to get in a pissing contest over but you are being misled on several key points or your citations are using statistics rather than the actual numbers to make the situation look far more dire than it actually is.
I am not saying you are being deceitful, I want to be clear on that.
I am saying that there are some nuances and factual differences in your source material. Again, I am sympathetic to your position but when dealing in a sensitive topic such as this. It pays to be correct.
Using the CDC as my source
Between 2020 and 2022, rates decreased for males ages 10–14 (3.6 deaths per 100,000 population to 2.8) and 15–24 (22.4 to 21.1), while rates increased for males age 25 and older.
You guys … I am not against 18 year olds carrying also I don’t think guns kill people, people use guns to kill people big difference …
What I did was report numbers that I have read… It was only meant to give you a reason why idiots think or see the numbers and want to do something to stop it … This is why in my very first post i said …
The education is not only for the kids. The parents to recognize when a kid is in trouble … I try to explain the numbers. I put it different ways so you can understand the outrage people feel… To help you understand, where they might be coming from. Even if it is an uneducated one …
Instead of going to someone like your neighbor … Man you are a foocking idiot guns don’t kill people … You lose them right there… Try to educate them to spot the the real problem and use the numbers to scare them … To pay more attention to those they love and support them. Find them help to resolve their personal issues…
I do not make the numbers. I report them … This is what I have read. I think it is a very bad trend and would love everyone’s help to change these numbers…
I do not disagree … The numbers I used was to reflect 18 to 21 … the difference in when you should be able to carry and when you can… It had to do with recent increase of deaths… If you want to change the laws you need to change the culture in most cases… Getting these numbers down with education… How to spot problems …
Like @Enzo_T did with teaching his girl first because boys are stupid We need to also see that people get the help they need emotionally to reduce these numbers …
People used to ask me … Hey is your owner still an ahole … I would tell them he is 100% better than what he used to be… Sadly he was 10% a good guy and well being 100% better still is only 20% so he was still 80% ahole …
Is that a true story of nationwide (or even statewide) teenage gang members shooting each other have a significant reduction as a result of education that we can scale up and repeat?
Otherwise…what education will reduce the numbers of teenage gang members shooting each other?
We invite/Welcome the street kids/gang members into our gym and many show up. In our experience “most” don’t take to civilized life, in fact most return to the street/gang life.
imagine all the people