Illinois girl, 14, tried to rob woman who shot her in chest, both charged, Chicago police say
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They may want to look closer at why the dog was being purchasedā¦ just a hunch but there may be more to the story.
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What theyāre saying sounds like the recognize the shooting was legit self defense (robber had a gun) but the defender had a FOID but no CPL. shes being charge on the concealed carry, not the shooting from what I can see in the articles.
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Thatās the way I read it too @Zee. That fact, also shows the fallacy of the whole FOID system. Itās legal to own the gun, and you have to pay for that right, then pay more to carry it.
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Good point! I hadnāt thought about that.
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I thought about that too but Iām betting they were looking for any way possible to charge her.
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@Michael7 Good morning Michael, well I have lived in Chicagoland all my life minus the 18 years I was in the Army. When I was a kid growing up on the South Side myself and a friend saw a patrol car hit a running perpetrator to stop him so Chicago donāt need a reason. I would wear a Kevlar vest if it was legal for non-law enforcers in Chicago.
I donāt think to much changed in the last 50+ years but I could be wrong.
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I know itās your home Robert but we would welcome you in Missouri. Just avoid st louis.
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Itās frustrating, but I understand that charge much more than if she was charged for defending herself.
Paying for two different permits so you can carry seems to go against the Second Amendment to me. Thereās a reason I donāt live in IL. 
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Iād say paying for just one does too.
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Well thatāll be nice Michael thatās very nice of you to say that. Iāve driven through Missouri long time ago several times that I donāt know if they call it
the Ozarks? Yes Ozarks! It was one of the time it was so foggy early in the morning like when the sun was coming up you could barely see in front of your windshield. Anyway Iāll stop thanking backwards here and go forward I have to ask my wife Elizabeth sheās working sheās young but sheās cool she just got her PhD in Biological Anthology she finished out last February if she was done. You know
Yourself there is no utopia as much as some people would like to have you believe that maybe thereās a lab there in St. Louis or I donāt know Kansas City at all that thereās some large cities in Missouri or at least larger cities. Weāre going to have kids she wants two and so do I even at my age. I never had kids before but Elizabeth wants them and so do I anyway now the Missouri will be a nice place away from Illinois so weāll talk about it and see what comes up with.
Your friend
Bob Murphy
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Springfield has a large medical community and itās a nice small city. There is a great gun club close by also.
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Remember, we Illinoisans have to get a permit, just to own a gun, or even ammunition. It is being challenged in court. It all boils down to money and control. The control is obvious. The money, well
2.2 million FOID cards, at 10 dollars a pop for a 10 year card. That averages out to 2.2 million dollars a year.
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@Zee. There was another Aurora, IL shooting recently. Honestly Aurora is becoming quite the Hotbed of gun activity lately. But now Cook County (Chicago & immediate touching suburbs)
Those political talking heads want increased FOID Card and other Fees in exchange for our rights of self protection. Although my Senator Dick Durbin D-IL has told me twice now that in his opinion the Second Amendment was solely designed for hunting 
I wrote him back in August told him nonsense yada yada. He (or his employee that wrote the letters) stated āWe can agree to disagreeā I often wonder how much of that stuff congressmen and senators actually see let alone read? I know senators donāt read bills if you ever read the book āWhat Makes You Think We Read Those Billsā -Written by retired Senator H.L. RICHARDSON You would be enlightened by the facts that Senators never read what they vote on (God Help Us All); Most recently Nancy Pelosi let that train leave the station regarding Affordable Health Care Act when sheās beating her chest āWe need to pass the bill so we can see whatās in itā Holy Hell,
And these numnuts actually are paidš³
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Oh yeah, I completely forgot about Springfield, thatās sort of from what I can tell like an up and comer.?
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Durbin is repeating a line often used by the anti-gunners. Why would anyone need 30 rounds to kill a deerā¦or some such variable. Those types donāt have a clue what the Constitution says AND they are trying to pull the wool over the eyes of the mass of voters who havenāt studied the Constitution or our history. All part of the leftās master plan IMO.
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If I wanted to go hunting with an Avalanche rifle not that I would but if I wanted to itās not anyoneās concern
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@Robert8 if youāre looking for a 2A friendly place to be, Springfield Missouri is an awesome small city. The Cox South hospital and doctors at Ferrel-Duncan are pretty awesomeā¦ they saved my hubbyās life against big odds. Our weather is milder than Chicago, the people are nicer to strangers, property is less expensive, and the ozarks are just minutes away. 
Plus @Michael7 and I are in the neighborhood 
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@Zee if you keep inviting people to Missouri, the population increases, it becomes liberal, and then bans all firearms
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Yeah thatās true. I have to talk about this with my wife because you know Iām retired but sheās works. Holy cow, between you and Michael as neighbors why would I need a Heater? (Chicago street language). 
Just kidding, but I thought it was funny.
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