I understand 
I’ll probably be limited to your guns due to me being 20.
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Not a problem, I am old though so I will probably take shameless advantage of you in toting guns and ammo around 
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Hey I don’t mind! Just means more things I can try out and see what I like and what I don’t 🤷
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that’s frickin’ hysterical!
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You have to love the 38Super[b]. It is.
1911’s have been made in the high power 38Super since 1929. It’s +P power is what the .357 Magnum was later designed to equal for revolvers. It still makes an ‘effective’ tool for EDC/CCW. Try it, you’ll like it.
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Why did I chose .45? Nostalgia, tradition, and it fits my hand and my soul. I learned to shoot pistols when I got a 1911 [my first pistol] as a 10th birthday present from my grandfather. Still have and shoot it. But I have other loves as well. Sig always seem to work for me, especially the D/S’s like my old P210 (9mm) and P220 (38Super), and the Springfield XDE series. Try them too.
Most gun owners I know are usually friendly and willing to oblige people that want to try one of our guns. You buy the range time and ammo, and satisfy your needs. I have a ‘few’ 1911 style, from .45 to .380. If you are in Southern CA I can help you. If not, post your wish directed at people in your area.
Terry
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When I find my way up to Birmingham, would it be a problem if my gf came along too? I just want her to try out different guns and see if perhaps she can get a feel of what she might like to get for her own carry gun.
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More the merrier. I only have .45 in handguns though. I just have multiple types of .45.
Or ummm I may have lost all the others in a tragic 
accident 
. I really got to get this boating thing under control. Though come to think of it I might be qualified to be a Captain of an oil tanker for Exxon 
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You also need to consider states that do not allow more than 10 or NJ that outlaws HP.
Thats why I carry a sling shot .
In .45 of course
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Do you load the whole cartridge or just the bullets in your sling shot? 
Welcome to the comedy club … uh, I mean Community 
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It’s what we had in the Army Reserve when I was in. I’m comfortable with Madam Slabsides and actually enjoy the recoil of .45 ACP. Those old Army guns were worn out but my Series 80 is a tack driver. May be it’s just all the time I’ve spent with the 1911 but I can shoot it more accurately than the Beretta M9 which replaced the Army guns…
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/music “Rock me gently, rock me all night long…”
It is one of the first things you notice when firing the .45 in a mid to long barrel - and it really is a wonderful sensation once you realize it’s designed to do that, won’t hurt you if your thumbs and web aren’t in the way of the slide to be shaved, and it rocks every time.
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It is always fun to enter into a convo where a caliber defines a pistol.
The 1911 is the ultimate .45 hands down in what ever variation and under whatever moniker. That said there are a bountiful F*#@% ton of wonderful pistols chambered in the venerable .45 ACP. My favorites include…
EAA Witness
SA XD
Pick what ever .45 ACP they put in a Glock
Pick what ever .45 ACP they put in a Sig Sauer
Pick what ever .45 ACP they put in a H&K
I am a fan of Jeff Copper’s mantra, “Never get in a gun fight with a caliber that doesn’t start with a 4”
I like 40’s, I really would rather not have a 9 unless it came in a Walther PPK.
IMHO volume of rounds does not replace accuracy of rounds and the best place to stand with someone that doesn’t practice is right in front of them.
Cheers,
Craig6
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I agree with everything else you said here in this post and would qualify the quotation above as…
‘Not have a 9 unless it’s a 357 SIG.’
(but that’s just me; I had too many days shooting a 380 PPK to do direct blow back on such a short barrel in combat 9 loads.) ((or 357 in a sub compact! Bad enough proficient practice time with a J-frame Magnum))
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@CHRIS4 I hear you on the direct blowback with full house 9mm loads in a small package. I have always though that the Walther package could handle a 9mm . It would be a bit stout no doubt. That being said I have a .357 derringer with a 1.25" barrel that while not pleasant to shoot is a viable SD gun. For whatever reason the Walther as always fit my paw but I always wanted it in 9mm as opposed to 380.
On the topic of 357 Sig. I am NOT a fan of short necked, bottle necked cartridges simply because there is not enough neck tension to hold the bullet still following a ramp strike. You already have a high performance round that now has the boolet seated back after each chambering. The FN 5.7 may be an exception because it has a longer neck and a long ogive on the boolet to reduce set back. Stuff a boolet too far back in a short case with fast powder is a recipe for disaster whether it be .45ACP, .380 or 9mm
Cheers,
Craig6.
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I think would choose a .45 ACP today because in my state, CA, we’re restricted to 10 round magazines.
I figure 8+1 rounds of .45 trumps 10+1 of 9mm considering overall energy, mass and bullet weight being deployed.
At least enough to make me question switching ponies to a 9mm
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Or 10+1 of .45, if one is inclined to carry full size.
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Pistol choice is a very personal thing for the purpose an individual has in mind for it, i.e., concealment, EDC, carry weight, capacity, etc… I read an interesting article on caliber of bullet citing statistics gathered from all over on how many rounds it took to stop a threat and the results are not what I would say were expected. Round placement was shown to be more critical than the size of the round (see link below). I’m sure there are similar articles posted here for you to reference.
All things being equal, and to answer your question directly - knock-down power. The .45 has a lot of it and almost regardless of where it hits, the threat is more than likely going to stop and re-evaluate his level of determination on following through with whatever he was doing that resulted in being shot. I was a Paramedic for a long time and saw too many gunshot wounds (GSWs) to count. None are good but some are much worse than others. The .45 GSW falls, without a doubt, in the latter.
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Hey, @Craig6 thank you for that realization. I can appreciate many of us only hear/consider the operating dynamics once the fuse is lit. Being intimate with the reloading process and watching how things go together can make a huge consideration obvious. That said, reminds me ammunition like most everything else, is perishable and some more than others. For the return on investment in specific technical applications, the drawback can be modulated remembering to rack or ram a round only a couple of times in its lifetime. That’s not easy, and certainly more expensive. Yet again, the pay off being able to reliably penetrate a difficult hide has its uses.
The rest of the time, if it can’t be 5.56 or better; 40, 45, and 9 are still viable options and easy to swap. Thanks again, and really good to know - before it bites.
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