Was it the 5.7 that has a drop warning in the manual?
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Ruger 5.7 manual:
âIf dropped or struck, the pistol may fire. Keep chamber empty unless actually firing!
For maximum safety when carrying the pistol with a loaded magazine in place, the chamber
should be empty, and the slide should be closed. If placed into a holster, check it to be
sure that the slide is not retracted far enough to chamber a cartridge from the magazine.â
40 years ago, Colt 1911 MK IV Series70 got this warning:
âWARNING: WHEN A ROUND IS IN THE CHAMBER, THIS PISTOL MAY DISCHARGE ACCIDENTALLY IF IT IS DROPPED OR RECEIVES A BLOW. (THIS CAN OCCUR REGARDLESS OF THE POSITION OF THE HAMMER OR ANY OF THE VARIOUS SAFETY DEVICES.) DO NOT PUT A ROUND IN THE CHAMBER UNTIL THE PISTOL IS IN YOUR HAND AND YOU ARE READY TO SHOOT, AND CLEAR THE PISTOL IMMEDIATELY AFTER SHOOTING.â
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The Ruger 5.7 identifies as a 40 year old Colt.
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Yeah⊠some people may start thinking that Ruger 5.7 was designed in 1957. 
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More likely around here, they will more likely believe Jesus invented it when he was 5 years and 7 months old. 
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In the end the common denominator of any modern pistol is the trigger. The trigger must be manipulated to the rear in order for the pistol to fire. It is YOUR job to be certain of how and when that will happen. Nothing more.
The rest is semantics.
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in the end your last safety is your finger. i have been shooting 1911âs for over 30 years and use the thumb safety it in way slows what i can do with the firearm. as for drop safe yes its true that todays firearms are very safe but lets not forget about that guy called murphy lol.
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how would we forgetâŠ
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I watched a video on the subject of unintentional discharge while holstering a weapon. (I cannot find that video right now, so apologies). The main theory was that this is caused by leaving your finger on the trigger while shoving your pistol into the holster. My thought when I saw this was that it is caused by lack of training, simply because most of the ranges do not allow holster training with live ammo.
Just my opinion.
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If it has a thumb safety, then you have to assume the safety is on when your draw. You might think itâs off, but it could be on, so you have to assume itâs on all the time. Given that, you might as well carry it with the safety on.
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The manufacturer does NOT say the thumb safety is option. To the contrary they explicitly say its use is mandatory for safe carry.
However, as has been said many times in this thread - obviously this is a choice made by each person, and should be made with due consideration for training, confidence and their individual threat environment.
Personally - I have extreme confidence in my training, and will carry a round in the chamber, and train for the thumb safety as my primary last-interlock (double action H&K), that is, Condition-2.
YMMV.
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Great topic. IDK. I donât have an answer. But appreciate it as âfood for thoughtâ.
I noticed some pistols have a cocked-back external hammer. To each his own. I know those require their own unique education and training, but I could never get used to the idea.
Nor for any DA on that first round. I can only get used to SA. Easier for my arthritic carpul tunnel like hands.
But we are all different. Whatâs comfortable for one person, may not be for another.
Perhaps there are proâs and conâs to each model, external hammer, cocked hammer, different safeties, chambered, un-chambered.
I guess my message is explore, study, see what one is comfortable with, safe, and feels more competent with.
Iâve got a lot more to learn about pistols with external hammers, so until then, I opted to a different model, but I will try to educate myself on how other models work. Thatâs just me though.
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There were two cases (hopefully videos are still on YouTube).
Both ND happened with Glocks (but that would apply to any striker fired pistol without external safety).
In one case handgun went off because part of the garment went into the holster and pressed the trigger.
In the other case nothing seemed to be bad until the person bent down and somehow discharge holstered handgun.
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do you recall details of the holster type and wear?
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I would expect worn out or poorly designed holsters and clothing getting into the holster to be the primary reason for negligent discharges when holstering. Though poor trigger finger discipline could come into play.
I was recently practicing with a new firearm, holster and thin jacket all of which I had never used before. The jacket had a bad habit of getting into the holster just before I was ready to reholster. Could have created an issue if I wasnât looking at the holster before putting the pistol back in it.
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IMO this is a big deal
My personal opinion is that the trainers out there insisting people holster their loaded guns (especially AIWB) without looking, loaded, in training, are negligent.
IMO, taking a look at the mouth of the holster/trigger guard/that whole area, before putting the loaded gun in there, is a requisite. Take a look down there. Donât have time to look down? Then donât holster it yet.
Itâs pitch black and you canât see to look down? Donât holster it.
Want to practice a no-look holster, practice a no-look holster dry.
/my take
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It was Glock43 carried AIWB in G-Code Kydex holster.
I wouldnât blame neither part of equipment. Iâm guessing piece of garment were caught inside the holster and pressed the trigger once the guy bent down.
Iâm using G-Code Kydex holster and thereâs no way it can cause ND once the handgun is properly holstered.
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Do not unholster. In the morning, gun in the holster goes from the safe on the belt. In the evening, gun still holstered goes from the belt to the safe.
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You are a crazy dude 
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