US Navy Commander relieved of duty

"I thought the adjustment ‘Thingy’ was closer to the eye myself’
but the last time I fired a Rifle my powder got soaked and I lost my Horn of Flints when crossing the Delaware River a short little while ago…

I asked young ’ Joe’ for help but he was eating ‘Jennie’s’ … (sarc) :rofl:

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Oh, believe me, there is more to this! But pertaining to the navies intolerance of any bad public appearance by the commander of a warship is well known to us naval officers.

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Hopefully this picture was caught in a brief second before he realized the lens caps were on, and he removed them. I expect we’ve all done that a few times.

On a different note, his flag is backwards. The POTUS/Commander-in-Chief should at least have a right-side flag for the right shoulder of his jacket.

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But Georgie, Joey talks to dead people. Apparently.

Going to let the joke end there as the punchline is not respectful. Mainly because of how truly awful Bidens claim of who the dead person was.

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Unless he was constantly walking backwards… :laughing:

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:rofl:
I think you nailed it!

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I agree with you. The flag patch should be mounted so the stars are on the leading edge as we continually advance forward, with the stipes flapping in the wind.

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There is something going on at the MACRO level that we are not being privy too. Over the last few months SCORES of Senior Enlisted and Officers have been relieved of their command with zero details being made public.

Personally I think the current administration and the crop of General they have appointed are trying to get rid of “old guard” folks so they can resist changes and reversals of policy by the potential new administration coming in January.

NOTHING in this Administration happens without some nefarious plan from the top…

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I believe Enzo is right. The Commander should be fired also.

The Navy secretary broke the law by voicing his views on Trump and Biden, a watchdog says (msn.com)

FILE - Nominee for Secretary of the Navy Carlos Del Toro speaks during a Senate Armed Services confirmation hearing July 13, 2021, on Capitol Hill in Washington. (AP Photo/Jacquelyn Martin, File)

FILE - Nominee for Secretary of the Navy Carlos Del Toro speaks during a Senate Armed Services confirmation hearing July 13, 2021, on Capitol Hill in Washington. (AP Photo/Jacquelyn Martin, File)

WASHINGTON (AP) — Navy Secretary Carlos Del Toro broke the law by publicly endorsing the reelection of President Joe Biden and criticizing former President Donald Trump in several statements he made while on official duty overseas, the U.S. Office of Special Counsel said Thursday.

In a report to the White House, the watchdog agency said Del Toro’s comments about the presidential election came in a BBC interview and when he was responding to questions after a speech in London. While he later reported the remarks, his unwillingness to take responsibility for them is troubling, the special counsel said.

The agency said Del Toro’s comments, which were made before Biden dropped out of the presidential race, violate the Hatch Act, which prohibits U.S. officials from engaging in political activity while they are on duty and from “using their official authority or influence to interfere with or affect the result of an election.”

“The United States and the world need the mature leadership of President Biden," Del Toro said in response to a question after giving a speech at the Royal United Services Institute in late January. He added, “We cannot afford to have a president who aligns himself with autocratic dictators and rulers whose interpretation of democratic principles is suspicious (at) best.”

Later, during an interview on “BBC News Sunday,” Del Toro was asked about his comments on Trump’s democratic principles. Del Toro responded that in the past, Republican and Democratic presidents abided by core American values and protected democracy.

“When you have someone who doesn’t align to those core principles, it makes you wonder, you know, should you be supporting that individual?” he said.

Del Toro was asked, “You said he had a suspicious attitude to democracy?” And the Navy secretary responded, “Absolutely so.”

Several days later, Del Toro self-reported the blunder to the special counsel, saying his intention was to focus on the importance of strong international alliances. But, he added, “In retrospect, I believe my response should have been delivered more broadly without reference to specific candidates.”

In a separate written response to the watchdog’s findings, the secretary’s lawyer, Michael Bromwich, said Del Toro’s remarks were “spontaneous and unpremeditated” and did not constitute a violation of the Hatch Act. Bromwich said Del Toro was responding to questions and did not directly speak Trump’s name.

Special counsel Hampton Dellinger said in his report that Del Toro “crossed a legal line.” And he said the secretary’s "unwillingness to acknowledge a mistake is striking” and troubling.

Asked about the violation, Pentagon spokeswoman Sabrina Singh said at a briefing that the department is reviewing the report. She added that “it’s important that we maintain the trust and confidence of the American people, which requires us to avoid any action that could imply the support of any political party, candidate or campaign.”

Navy Capt. Clay Doss said in a statement that the service got a copy of the report Thursday and “this matter will be addressed through the appropriate process.”

Dellinger said he appreciates that Del Toro reported the comments, “but this fact alone should not absolve him.” Del Toro has also issued his own directive for his Navy force, Dellinger said, noting that "it is more important than ever for us to remember that the DON (Department of the Navy) is an apolitical body. …. Public trust and confidence depend on this.”

The findings come after two Democratic members of Congress sent a letter to the Pentagon’s top two leaders in August, pressing them to ensure the military is not swept up in politics during the presidential election.

Career government officials found to have violated the Hatch Act can be fired, suspended or demoted and fined up to $1,000, though few penalties are ever levied against federal employees.

The White House did not immediately respond to requests for a comment.

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That would seem to be an issue for someone with far more rank. Colonel’s and Naval Captains are basically step and fetch it grunts at the Pentagon.

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Just read that. That’s just traitorous behavior and highly illegal. But he gets to keep his job because his boss is a criminal too.

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In the military, least when I was, in you got this Hatch Act briefing, right around political season time also known as election time.

More rules for thee but none for me. That will be the lasting memory of Puddins legacy.

On a somewhat related note, The true felon, Huntard is trying to get a Court to allow him to plea Not Guilty, in exchange, he will accept whatever punishment the Court will give concerning his Federal Tax Crimes case. Now call me cynical, I’m betting that it’s not because he has suddenly started feeling remorseful for his influence peddling. I’m betting, it’s because he knows that the “Big Guys” influence is fading fast and he can read the writing on the wall. Before the Palace Coup on Puddin, Puddin had said he wouldn’t pardon him. But now that the Biden name is close to becoming mud and the only Legacy he will have is whatever legacy Obama will allow Kameltoe to give him. I expect ole Puddin will Pardon and Commute the First Felon.

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He will ABSOLUTELY pardon that POS son of his. Hunter needs these convictions NOW before daddy forgets who he is. Biden has zero reasons to keep his word and Hunter has no winning side after the election.

Trump won’t do it because Hunter is a sleaze ball. Kamala can’t do it because she’d be burnt at the stake by both sides and has to divorce herself from Biden.

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@Michael1799 Welcome to the community!

thanks, Ron!

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I have to disagree. A captain in the navy is equal to a coronal in the army. Trying to micro manage everything from that level is stupidity. That’s why there are lower level officers and NCOs. If the navy goes after a flag officer over this, those higher ranking officers are extremely stupid too.

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@Enzo_T

I don’t disagree, in theory. But… The Navy takes the power of and the chain of Command very seriously, because until fairly recently, historically speaking, a Captain of a ship is/was it. The buck stopped there. Because the nature of the service is such that ships could be months or even a year or more with no contact with higher Command Authority. So, literal, life and death over the crew rests in the hands of that Captain.

A Captain has the authority, and would expect in a life threatening situation to send members of the crew into a raging fire onboard a ship, to where they all know they are going to die, and seal the bulkhead behind them.

Say for instance, and this has happened.

The seamount that the USS San Francisco struck did not appear on the chart in use at the time of the accident, but other charts available for use indicated an area of “discolored water”, an indication of the probable presence of a seamount. This is for the USS San Francisco SS-711. A Los Angeles Class Nuclear Submarine.

The sea mount was not on the map, and the only clue was discolored sea water, I’m not sure how the “windows” work on a Submarine. :joy::rofl: The collision happened at a depth of over 500 feet underwater. Yet this Captain whose track record included many unit citations for excellence, was removed from command. IIRC, I don’t think he even had the helm, when the collision happened and as I mentioned the crew had numerous awards for excellence. Which translates to being trained to the highest Naval standards. Yet a collision with an unknown, at that time, seamount destroyed an otherwise excellent Officer’s career, as well as, numerous other members of the crew. The flip side is numerous other crew members were awarded citations and awards for valor, up to the Naval Cross.

So, I can see a Captain, being cashiered for what happened with a firearm that he should have known was not set up properly. I’m not talking about the optic being on backwards, I’m talking about the lens cap being on. The second thing is going to sound nebulous, but the Navy, most likely, also looked at the optic being on backwards as a sign of a perceived lack of respect for the Captain because someone who should have known better, handed the Captain a firearm that was set up improperly. Not only that, but then posted, publicly, a picture of it. Thus it was, considered, a loss of confidence in the Captain’s authority. To the average non Naval person, it’s a trivial mistake. To the Navy, it’s a severe loss of confidence.

The U.S. Navy is just wired like that. Not a lecture, just my thoughts of why this was a big deal to the Navy. Im pretty sure that @NavalAV8R_USA can explain this better than I since he was not only a Naval Aviator, but a Surface Warfare Officer as well and yes that is an important distinction. Me, I was just a sailor

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Edit: Usual suspects, spelling and punKTuAtiOn. Added P.S.

P.S. unless you meant my comment about a Captain and/or Colonel, being a grunt at the Pentagon.

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I think part of this I didn’t realize that it was the captain holding the weapon. With that said sacking a flag officer over it is silly. But I never said the military made any sense. I was in the military as well so I get the authority and responsibility for rank. This is also the exact reason I got out. To me the most he should have gotten is a good ass chewing and then let the turd roll down hill so to speak.

To me it’s stupid to have a person sacked in which there is that much money invested and since you brought it up; that many awards for excellence. Good commanders don’t come by that often and deliberately getting rid of one is stupid. I’m an army brat. I can remember when an article 15 wouldn’t ruin a person’s career. You did something stupid, got punished for it and you had to work hard to get back what you lost. It wasn’t the career ender that it is now. To expect perfection from imperfect people is stupid and how you destroy a good military.

Edit: I also understand that such leaders have to ask/command/demand people do suicidal missions for the good of the whole. This isn’t one of those situations.

Who here hasn’t brought up binoculars to their eyes only to realize the caps are still on.

I this case one shutter click at that unfortunate moment was captured and widely used by the mainstream media as part of their agenda marketing, to geed the amusement of those that require the entertainment and don’t know any better.

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:joy: I have never done such stupid thing in my life…

haha

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