Well I guess I sound like Forest Gump, but the surveys are from Vista outdoors, so it wouldn’t be too far fetched that Federal might have caught wind of my request since I’ve been using cut and paste and putting what I posted above at the end of every survey since last summer.
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I’m not sold on it. Is the performance enough to ditch the 9mm luger. If not, improve on the 9mm.
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Excited to see a new caliber, less lead, copper and brass it could be less expensive even looks to be comparable to a 9mm. However, I like weird calibers, love to have a .38 Super but very hard to get ammo, like the 5.7 and .22 magnum, love 9mm, next on my list is a 10 mm. Would love to have a .30 carbine pistol, however they are scarce. However After reading many of the comments, it is quite possible that this round will see itself going to the scrapheap of dead rounds, .327 Magnum, .45 GAP, .50 GAP, 41 Magnum, .44 Automag… etc. I would suspect it could see life if Law Enforcement Adopted it, like the 40 S&W.
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7.62x25 ammo was recently in use by the Russians and the Chinese, in TT33 pistol and its clones. Russians officially ditched TT33 in favor of PM back in the 1950s, but I think this was due to poor safety record of the pistol. It would be interesting to see a modern rehash of the old classic, with modern loads. Whether this is a good idea during ammo shortage crisis - I’ll leave this up to the free market.
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How much is the ammo now? Not suggested retail price.
For the most part, you’re probably right. I do have the Ruger-57 though. I didn’t buy it for self-defense purposes, just a fun firearm to take to the range.
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This is just another new product being introduced NEW in the market for 2022. Prices WILL be COMPETETIVE with what’s out there, and NOT ANY CHEAPER because it’s also about $$$. Let’s see what other new products are in store for 2022. It’s just getting started.
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@MikeBKY I think 9mm is pretty good as it is already, BUT I hope it NEVER gets ditched. The only thing out there is, "Common Manufactures, let’s move (MOVE, MOVE, MOVE!) get the AMMO SHELVES STOCKED UP!
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Reminds me of Detroit when they say “we have so many models and so many options because that is what the public demands.” To me, this has the same odor. Compare this to European car builders. Year in and out appearance changes very little, and the options are fewer (but with more substance). But their engineering and performance characteristics progress by leaps and bounds. I wonder if they ever considered, instead of a new round, taking what we already have and just making it better?
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That might be why most of the popular 9mm defensive rounds are 124gr or 147gr.
If it can match that sectional density, that’s a good spot to be, it seems
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A 124 grain 0.355” bullet has a sectional density of 0.141 which surpasses the 100 grain 32 caliber bullet. A 147 grain 0.355” diameter bullet has a sectional density of 0.167 and all of those numbers are Hornady XTP which are respectable hollow points.
The 0.308” diameter 110 grain Speer jacketed hollow point I suggested has a sectional density of 0.166 which is nearly identical to the 147 grain 9mm offering.
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It’s all just numbers on paper until you go out and kill a bunch of goats. 
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Not a goat but it’s a 170 lb whitetail buck harvested with a 147 grain Hornady XTP from a 16” barrel carbine. The larger hole is the entry side and the smaller hole is the exit side. The bullet entered just behind the shoulder. The bullet core exited the far side and the jacket was just under the hide.
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Very nice Buck Good shot but I have killed about 100 with every thing from a pointy stick to to a .45LC. My favorite is a Marlin .30.30 with Hornaday 160grn Flex Tip.
Not sure what that has to do with a .30cal pistol bullet? Thanks for posting the pic tho. 
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Maybe the Goat Test was before your time. 
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The 147 grain 9 mm XTP bullet has a sectional density of 0.167 and the 30 caliber 110 grain hollowpoint has a sectional density of 0.166 so that’s the correlation.
I’ve brought up sectional density several times on this thread, but I seldom see it mentioned on self defense forums.
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I don’t get lost in the numbers, if I shoot it and it goes down its a good bullet, if it don’t I will try another. You, Sir are lost in the numbers. 
I think one reason for that is that bullet design has a significant impact on penetration/expansion and overall performance, such that sectional density becomes sort of an intermediary. Why worry about sectional density when you can jump right to the terminal ballistics?
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