I recently found out about stage 2 triggers. YouTube sources have given me a foundation but I’m also interested in your thoughts and/or experiences with them.
My opinion is your opinion. I’ve only used triggers that would have been similar to what you are taking about, but those were on a few rifles and pistols that I’ve swapped.
Only trigger I’ve ever used is mil-spec. Those are 2 stage.
I’m on the fence on drop in, single stage triggers.
Both my AR’s have Geissele SSA 2 stage triggers. I absolutely love them. You can stage it for a precision shot our if you’re doing CQB type stuff you can pull straight through it
No offense but (mil-spec) triggers are single stage and they’re relatively gritty and heavy. In a stressful situation you won’t notice a heavy trigger or a light trigger…
I have from a stock trigger (whatever came with the gun) to the most expensive ,high speed, cool guy, tacticool 1 and 2 stage triggers. The question you have to ask yourself is what do you really intend to do with this gun. Long range? Home defense.? Or fill in the blank.
So you don’t believe the extra $$$ for a 2 stage trigger is justified beyond what I’d get with a mil-spec trigger? I appreciate your perspective. You’ve definitely given me something to think about. This build would be for home defense. It’s my 2nd build & I wanted to do something different. Not sure how many more I’ll get to build and customize looking at things going on around us. Nevertheless, thanks.
If it’s for home defense i would have to say no, in your case it’s not worth the extra money. Usually a quality aftermarket trigger is around $250-300 range. If your building yourself, I have an ALG defense enhanced mil-spec trigger it’s in the $50-65 dollar range. That’s my short answer, if I can help further feel free to ask away.
There are two questions wrapped up in here.
- Do you need a 2 stage trigger in order to upgrade from “mil-spec”? (no).
- And is the cost for an upgrade (a 2 stage trigger, or a better 1stage trigger) worth it? (maybe).
“Mil-spec” triggers is a very broad category, basically a 1stage trigger with a slightly heavy pull weight. There are some really crappy mil-spec triggers that are very rough and heavy. And there are some others that are pretty nice with a crisp break and decent pull weight in the 4-7lb range. So you can upgrade to a better trigger and still be considered “mil-spec”.
You can get some pretty good mil-spec triggers for well under $100. Palmetto State Armory has their “Enhanced” trigger which is generally pretty well regarded and is (IIRC) ~$50-60. Sons of Liberty Gunworks (SOLGW site and also sold at Primary Arms) has a “Liberty Fighting Trigger” which I’ve heard is a very nice 1Stage ~6lb pull trigger with a crisp break & reset for < $70. There may be other mil-spec-ish triggers in the reasonable cost category, examples are Timney, CMC, ALG, Rise, Geissele, etc (I’m sure I’m forgetting some).
Now, if you want a 2-stage trigger, thats a matter of preference and use-case. Generally a 2 stage trigger is used for precision shooting where you want a very light trigger, but in order to reduce the chance of an AD you add in an additional stage or take-up before the final break. Geisselle’s SSA for example is 3lb 1st stage and 1.75lb 2nd stage for a total of 4.75lb. It’s the 1.75lb 2nd stage that lets you really remove trigger squeeze issues from long-range or precision shooting. Some might feel that the 2nd stage is too light or that you might not want to worry about managing the 1st stage in an HD/SD situation. IMO, something like the SSA is a good trigger because when you need precision you can manage the 2stages, but if you’re in a hurry you can just pull straight through both stages.
So at the end of the day, you can spend as low as (maybe) $50 or as much as several hundred in a trigger upgrade. Is that worth it, is up to you and how much you dislike your current trigger
Wow thanks for the response… So much to unpack. The Geisselle (how do you pronounce that?) I’ve seen on Palmetto State’s website for a decent price. At this point, I’m beyond interested in using a 2 stage trigger for my upcoming build. I want to see the difference & if it helps with precision (or accuracy) I’m good with that.
Mr. Harvey’s post is spot on. It’s pronounced Guy-s-lee. I have an Geissele SSA and i would recommend them as well
I agree with everything @Harvey said.
I’ll add if you’re going to use a 2 stage trigger I would suggest spending the money on a quality trigger. In my opinion Geissele sets the standard, however there are other great companies. And while the price might deter you look for sales they have them often. I haven’t ever seen or heard someone regret using geissele products.
Worth the watch before committing to a trigger.
That was cool. How awesome it is to see or rather hear from someone who loves their work & appreciates customers. Thanks for posting that video.
I highly recommend the Geissele SSA Trigger. I’ll never go back to another trigger again.
I think I’m gonna order the SSA-E. Somehow, I don’t think I’ll be disappointed. Thanks for the comment & recommendation.
I’ve been keeping an eye out for more Geisselle sales. I’m waiting for them to drop below $200 again.