Looking for options from folks on using a small moa optic (3moa) for accuracy shooting and suppressor height sights, (co-witness), through optic for defensive use shooting.
Drop the thought of co-witness. Zero the dot to point of impact for whatever distance is your preference.
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MOA size is very personal. Each of us has different preferences which depend on our vision capabilities.
I always thought that double reticle (dot + circle) would be the best. But I quickly found it not practical for me.
I used chevron reticle with huge circle (Vulcan ACSS) that was visible only when I misaligned sights. It worked great for the time I was learning how to use the optics.
Right now I’m using only 3 MOA and 1 MOA for all my pistols. (1 MOA is preferred).
It works great for any type of shooting - precise and defensive.
Co-witness is not important for me. I would say, it bothers me, so I prefer to have sights very close to lower frame of optics window.
Iron sights are only backup for precise shot, for short distance shots optic’s window (even without working dot) is faster than iron sights to pick up the target.
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Jamey1, I’ve had a battery die in one of my optics in the past. This happened because of faulty battery life. If not for co-witnessing iron sights through the optic glass I would have to stop the class I was attending. I used the iron sights to do rapid firing at 7 steel targets set-up at different distances and positions. Fact is, I came in second place in that part of the class of speed and precision.
I’m always looking to others for their thoughts on certain things because I’ve actually have learned things that I never thought about.
Thank you for your good input.
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Depending on my pistol I use either a 6 moa or 2/32 reticle, all green. Sights are 1/3 cowitness so I keep focus on the sight/target and not the sights/dot/target. Except for my new one, PDP SCS, it is made to co-witness.
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Its my thought that you should know where your fixed sight are hitting in case of optic failure. Also i dont feel you should not force yourself to adjust to where you want the dot to be verses letting the dot go to a “natural” aiming point.
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If you practice NPOA then the dot will be there every time, the same with iron sights.
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I agree. Dot in the center and iron sights in the lower one-third!
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I’m just now realizing that I can use some help seeing down range. I have never paid attention to red dot or any other so now I need some input on make ect. for putting on a pistol. I don’t want to spend a large amount but do want something good. HELP Please
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For me, I have been extremely happy with my Holosun SCS on my HK VP9SK. small footprint, no battery issues (solar charge lasts 20k hours) and the green circle dot is VERY easy to see, even in bright sunlight. I chose to go with short height irons for backup, and I also chose non night sights on purpose because I found that glowing irons was annoying with the dot.
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Then you will likely want an optic NOT in the red spectrum !and not a “single dot” (think circle or chevron).
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first, we need to know your pistol’s model. Is it optics ready?
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CZ75 SP-01 Phantom also a Kimber Stainless II 45ACP
I don’t think these are optic ready so you will have to consider milling the slide for direct optic footprint.
I’ll go with RMR because it gives the most options for different red dots. I personally prefer original Trijicon RMR2, but you can choose between few other great devices.
Check these:
- Swampfox
- Holosun
- Primary Arms
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