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I find myself asking what’s more important then how our children are taught to think. We’ve already entrusted these educators with the greatest responsibility. To arm our children with the ideas, knowledge, and philosophies that will lead them to success. If we can’t trust them to be responsible with a gun then they shouldn’t be teaching at all. Any college that specializes in education should also be teaching firearms for teachers defense classes with a certification to reflect that class. I’m also opposed to any “gun free” zones. Like any criminal or terrorist wouldn’t see that as an invitation. It’s crazy town really. Common sense if you ask me.
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Check out “Fastersaveslives.com”. The Faster organization trains teachers in firearms, concealed carry and first aid. They claim that there has never been a firearm related problem with the volunteer teachers they have trained. Here in Colorado, arming volunteer school staff is up to the individual school boards and is mainly taken advantage of by the more rural school districts.
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I used to think that way, after all, I made it through the Reserve Officers programme thus proving that anyone can.
A couple of things changed my thinking. The first was that when my father applied for a permit in the LosaAngelis area in the 1970s, he was told that he had to take a one day class that cost $2,000. Accounting for inflation, that is close to $10,000 today.
As he told me, the training was extremely pointless stuff and was more social than real training. As a combat vet who had been reduced to fighting, and killing, with a shovel, I suspect he had a pretty good idea of what “training” should have looked like; although he loved the night shooting class he took with me once, that is a very different story.
He was later having coffee with one of the county commissioners and he commented on the absurdity and high price of the class. The commissioner commented, “oh, you should have talked to me first, those classes aren’t for people like you.” I have always remembered that story. it formed in my mind what the “real purpose” of so many of the laws is about.
Next, I was at lodge and I am chatting with an older retired police officer. It was when the state was preparing to make permits non-mandatory to carry concealed firearms. To no surprise, he was bemoaning the “good ol’e days.”
At that time the city ran its own class, and I was told the class wasn’t cheap, keeps the wrong sort out you know’. Second, for the shooting portion, they had the applicant first run an obstacle course. Then to top it off, the applicant had to shoot full loads for the pistol they were carrying.
He took great pleasure in recalling one “little guy” who came with a 44 magnum and 44 special rounds. He knew what the guy was trying to do, he was trying to “cheat” by minimizing the recoil. I was told they made him use regular 44 magnums. This guy got a great laugh over the memory of this person failing the test.
I was in lodge, so I didn’t berate him, but it did make it pretty clear why the state took over the licensing process.
I say this to point out that while we can think that we know what we are calling for when we ask that teachers be required to be “trained” how that actually works out might be quite different.
Yes, I am strongly in favour of making training available. However, I start to be a bit suspicious when people start saying “required.”
As I said earlier in this thread, I am a teacher. If permitted I would carry. My principal has already discussed it and made it clear that she would not complain, even if it weren’t permitted.
That said, there have been teachers that I am not sure how comfortable I would be if they were carrying. Here is the thing though. In an open staff discussion, each and every teacher that anyone had any concerns about, came out and stated that they wouldn’t carry a gun even if it were required, and no one is talking about “required” at all. So, all of those “questionable” teachers self-selected out before the question was even asked.
To repeat, Yes, I am strongly in favour of making training available. However, I start to be a bit suspicious when people start saying “required.”
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While I tend to get a bit verbose, I did contact my congressman and senators with this short message.
I am writing to express my opposition to any new restrictions on the rights of firearms owners. While I am not writing in any official capacity, I am a teacher and I would prefer to see a greater focus on allowing for, and training, teachers to both carry and use firearms, if necessary, to protect the children entrusted to them.
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I propose Free Basic USCCA or Discounted Elite memberships for teachers that are willing to arm themselves. I also believe firearm safety training should be taught at all schools to keep kids safe in case they find or handle a gun or rifle.
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The next thing you know will be the puppets extensive military career.
“The idea we’re going to provide the way to deal with gun safety is to provide teachers with guns in classrooms?” Biden said at the event. “There’s a reason why the military takes so long to train somebody. It’s not easy to pick up a rifle or a gun and blow somebody’s brains out.”
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The reason the military take so long to train soldiers is reprogramming not firearms training. Just read a story that spoke about an armed teacher stopping a gunman and saving at least 250 kids. The gunman is pushing up daisies and not one student died. It’s obvious, let the teachers carry if they want and save lives. Offer free training for the teachers if they want just like cpr and basic first aid training. Always remember, FEAR has at least two meanings.
Forget Everything And Run or
Face Everything And Rise!
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Yes, I agree it was hi Jacked. All that has to be done is pick out one of the higher learning institutions and look at their ways of teaching. Way back I remember some that would not allow Mil recruiters on campus nor did they have ROTC. The major shift happened during the Nam years.
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It now appears in today`s society that no campus is safe from danger of attack from sick people. I believe certain school officials and or teachers should have the right to carry defense weapons in their schools, providing they go through extensive defensive training.
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Welcome to the community @Allen68 !
Fortunately these events are incredibly rare despite the news media and anti self defense crowd’s attempts to convince everyone they are a daily occurrence in order to advance their goal of turning law abiding citizens into defenseless targets.
But I do completely agree that having armed and appropriately trained staff on site is the absolute best way to prevent and quickly stop these rare but tragic events from happening.
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Hello and welcome @Allen68
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Hey Allen68, I hate getting notification that this topic has had another response because it’s a sure indication that something terrible has occurred. It seems we’ve clearly established in this thread that teachers should be armed. I didn’t even know anything had happened as I have almost fully abandoned major news providers due to them being HIGH JACKED much like hitler high jacked his news outlets. Here we are again in, I believe, another highly restricted state in regards to firearms for the people. Yet again their restrictions fail them. Shocking! Just as a reminder, right down the street from the school where officers failed to do their duty in Uvalde, was a school with signs posted. HEAVILY ARMED AND TRAINED TEACHERS work here. The answer is an easy one, let them save themselves for goodness sake!
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Welcome to the family brother @Allen68 and you are blessed to be here.
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Yes, we should absolutely have trusted, armed staff on school campuses. We trust cops, CCW holders, armed security guards, and other legally armed folks around the everyday public, which includes children, why are schools so specifically off limits. I’ll tell you why, because the people who create these laws WANT children to be easy targets. It helps them further their gun control agenda when they send their pill addicted, mentally ill incel weirdo to go in and cause them harm. Think about it, gun free zones make no sense, anyone who wants to bring harm to children will ignore the law, and only those who would protect the children with their lives would follow the ridiculous law because they’re good, law abiding citizens. Either these people are evil or their just really really dumb
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Hello and welcome @DeathOtter
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There are many many schools that do allow their teachers to carry and you’ll find that they never get attacked. I think firearms safety and some kind of specialized cc for teachers classes should be offered along side cpr and the like. I also think riflemen classes should be reintroduced into the school system. Homeschooling is the way to go but I realize the way the system works today it demands both parents to be working.
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I surely agree, we will have to dig to find that bar 
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Yes, possibly part of even becoming a teacher these days. Where I live, we have a couple schools that have been decommissioned due to new ones that were built. I suggested in the recent past the that these locations be used too train LEOs as well as anyone else that wants to learn and understand
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We should simply remove the ridiculous off limits aspect to schools and let people who can legally carry, carry ,just like all the other places (most states) malls, restaurants, arcades, bowling allies, grocery stores, bounce house parties, all the things and places.
We don’t need “arm” anybody, nobody should be “armed” unless it is a required part of the job with extensive training (like law enforcement) and there shouldn’t be any training requirement to exercise a supposedly uninfringed Right.
I can support one infringement, no open carry or exposed carry allowed if that is what that school wishes, must keep it concealed. Otherwise that’s about it.
Have we not learned yet that making it harder for “good guys” to have a gun and be able to to shoot back only makes things worse? Stop doing that!
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