I don’t have any experience giving or receiving pit maneuvers but I do have experience driving pickups in slick conditions. It is fairly easy to loose control of the rear end when they are not carrying a heavy load in the rear. I suspect that pickups might be similarly susceptible to pit maneuvers??
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That was an armed robbery not road rage.
On newer cars you can call 911 hands free via blue tooth. Phone automatically connects when you start the car if it has been programmed. On some cars an operator will call you on the 1st impact. You can tell them what is happening and police/EMT would be dispatched to your GPS location.
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Sometimes yes but not always. The main issues are to keep moving/keep from getting cut off and staying in control while not crashing into objects, other vehicles or other people. Faster doesn’t accomplish the former if the other driver can keep up and it makes the later much more likely.
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The only thing with blue tooth is that voice commands will get distorted with noise, like someone running into your car. I can’t even tell it to call someone while driving down the road. It always thinks I’m saying a different name.
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Could be, haven’t experienced it, and pray that I don’t either one.
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I didn’t say to drive out of control. But if you are not good at defensive driving fast or slow isn’t going to make much difference in this case. Going slow got him spun out twice and a guy walking to his driver’s side window with a gun in his hand. I guess if he kept his head, he could have watched for the guy in the car to get behind him and then slam on brakes but that was his only other choice as I see it.
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Agree that driving skills are the most important aspect. I was just pointing out that fast doesn’t always work. Fast also makes it easier to get out of control even if you know what you are doing and reduces the time you have to react to and avoid other obstacles especially in city traffic.
Going slower also gives you the option of unexpectedly speeding up and turning when you see an opening that the other driver might not be able to make. Though going faster gives you the option of unexpectedly slowing down.
It is hard to see for certain but looked like the victim opened his door after his vehicle got stuck but didn’t get out where he could run or fight back. That was not the best move from a self defense perspective.
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True, fast doesn’t always win but slow didn’t do him any good throughout the video. As far as control goes, he lost that during his first pit. At that time, he had no other choice than fast. The key is knowing how to really drive your car and use its strengths. The car chasing him is much better at tight turns and it is doubtful that he could get away using turns. The only thing that could keep the car off of him was to hit the brakes. As far as obstacles go, have you ever tailgated a truck. It’s hard to see what problems are in front of you. Although the lead car does stand a chance of messing up, the rear car can easily be fooled when they can’t see any further than your rear bumper. That is where speed and timing come in.
I looked at it again and did see his door open. I thought the guy beat on his driver’s window but he beat on the passenger window. That is when he should have been shot. It would have been practically a no miss shot. In my opinion anyway.
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Knowing in hindsight that the guy who banged on the window had a firearm makes it a no brainer to shoot at that point. But if the road rager turned out to be unarmed that would have potentially lead to an expensive legal battle.
I’m not saying the shooting wouldn’t have been justified given that the driver of the sedan had already made an attack with a deadly weapon. Just saying that a prosecutor and jury might not agree. Not to mention all the ambulance chasing lawyers who would be knocking on the doors of the road rager’s relatives offering to file civil suits.
I suspect the victim here didn’t have self defense insurance or a firearm to defend themselves with. His best bet was likely to get out of the vehicle and run as fast as he could before the road ragers could get out of their vehicle.
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They could come up with several reasons of what the driver could have done instead of defending themselves.
Why didn’t out of the car and run? Yell for help? Call police? Why didn’t you drive to a police station?
From the video the prosecutor might try the victim for reckless driving.
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Apply physics. A moving car is easier to push around . A stopped car is harder. Stop you car. Watch your mirrors when someone leaves the other car let them abandon their car, when they are close to you take off. Just plan your route, stay close to parked cars so they can’t try and swing you around. You should be good by now, head for the nearest police station. Dial 911 whenever in all that mayhem you can.
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I didn’t see the gun until he started around the front of the car but the driver should have seen it. If he said he did, then I don’t see any problem.
That is what court is for. Basically, the bad guys tried to kill him three times in one city block. How many tries are you supposed to give them. I don’t remember which state he was in but in mine, if you are in your car, castle doctrine applies. Oh yea, so does stand your ground.
In my state there are no civil suits on a good shoot. By law. That’s pretty good for a purple state.
I was just saying what he could have done differently. If he couldn’t drive well enough to get away, he should have had a firearm. Maybe after his life was threatened, he joined up, got his CCW and bought one.
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Could certainly see that happening in some anti self defense places.
We are also not seeing how this incident started. It is entirely possible that the victim here did something really stupid or dangerous to set this whole scenario in motion. Wouldn’t justify the passenger of the other vehicle shooting him but might have made it harder for the victim to justify using deadly force to defend themselves.
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Agree that if the driver saw a weapon, reasonably believed the attacker was going for a weapon, reasonably believed the attacker was in the act of breaking through the window or the driver had also gotten out making a two on one situation then deadly force would be clearly justified and I would think it would be very hard for a jury to disagree based on the evidence seen in the video.
If the attacker was just banging on the passenger window with their bare hands that would create a little more of a legal grey area.
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At least for one of the three attempts.
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It looks like the passenger that got out of the black car that ran out to the silver SUV, when returning to the black car, he had what appeared to be a black bag/backpack/purse on his left hand that he took from silver SUV, could maybe this had been a hit/target on the SUV? 
By the looks of all that commotion, seems like they were after that SUV for something! 
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That was the thought process in the third post in the thread
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Mmmmm…not sure what you’re going with this, but ok
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I edited my comment to hopefully clear it up some
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