Rendering aid to the bad guy you just shot

I’m with you 1000%, my first aid kit is for my loved ones, myself or innocent wounded. When the threat is stopped. My name is lawyer!
As to some other responses, we are living in a Mad Max world, created by an administration that condones bloodshed!
I don’t condone violence, but when it’s shoved down my throat, I think the politically correct term would be “attacker” there on the ground!

@Trever1 Happy Anniversary, may we never have to draw down! Unless of course we are forced to!

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Thank you brother.

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Not only do I pray never to be in this situation but I am with the crowds that would first make sure the scene is secure dial 911 render aid to the victims if possible. I would hope by the time that is accomplished first responders would be on the scene and they would take over from there. At that point I would follow the instructions of law enforcement and ask for my lawyer after stating I will cooperate 100% after my lawyer is present.

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You are not new to the forum. @Ouade5 has been on this site for a long time, posted many comments and is a very well-respected member - you should know this. Your insulting tone about his clearly sensible advice is duly noted.

Seriously, providing aid to a perp that tried to harm/kill, etc., when doing so will put your life back in jeopardy is plain stupid. What happens when the perp attacks you again? You likely will be considered the assailant at that point when you further injure/kill the perp as you closed quarters when you should have kept at a safe distance.

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He didn’t say a veteran of what war. From the Rebs I have met, likely they either are Civil War veterans or want to be… :rofl:

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That response and exchange was with @Trever1, and not @Ouade5 . I too respect @Ouade5 , as well as @Trever1 after civil dialogue cleared things up and gave perspective. I encourage you to recheck the chronology and if you still feel that the way I addressed the situation was out of line, I’d be glad to hear your criticism. I wonder if you read everything, or just parts, I await your response should you choose to give one.

I agreed with the choice of staying safe and not rendering aid until it was safe, still, perhaps I did do say something , and if so, I would like to know it.

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Somebody from Tik Tok told me they took a class and apparently the class told them they could be charged for not rendering aid.

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Maybe in China. Here not so much, rendering aid could be just telling 911 to send an ambulance.

“ Treating the attacker’s gunshot wounds virtually guarantees a civil suit by the attacker, or his family if he dies. Staying on the phone with 9-1-1 while repeatedly stating that paramedics and an ambulance are needed ASAP will show enough concern for the attacker so the defender will not be viewed as cold and callous.

For most people, simply that he or she was concerned that any attempted treatment might cause more harm than good because of lack of training should be a sufficient explanation for not helping, if it ever becomes necessary to explain. The answer might be different if the defender is a physician or other medical professional, but even then it will probably be better to stay away in order to remain safe. The police will not let the paramedics or ambulance near the wounded attacker until they have cleared the scene and there is no reason a civilian should act sooner.”

  • Mike Ooley

https://armedcitizensnetwork.org/june-2017-attorney-question

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And here in USA you can be charged if the person dies after you render aid and you are not qualified to do so.
Let the EMTs do their job.

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Then the question remains…Why do you have a tourniquet in your back pocket and an IFAK in your left front pocket? Going to be hard to explain that the first aid is only for innocent people! Don’t get me wrong, I’m happy to see bad guy squirm!
We don’t need any smart quips about squirming bad guys, since bad guy would have been just as happy to see me dead!
I’m under no obligation to treat bad guy for “self inflicted” wounds!

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Afghanistan.The civil war would make me quite old indeed

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Afghanistan was kind of a civil war. You should tell the kids you fought in (a) civil war and see what kind of reactions you get. :laughing:

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Wasn’t a civil thing about that place.Definatly never want to see that crap again.It did however more than prepare me for the worst.

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I think there’s a possibility for this, in extreme situations, but it’s all in how you articulate the situation. This is why USCCA recommends contacting an attorney before making your statement to the police.

This is kind of silly, but if you used your firearm in self-defense and then told the police “I enjoyed watching him bleed out for 15 minutes, hoping the filthy animal would die before you got here,” you might get in some hot water. As opposed to “I called 911 immediately and secured the scene until help arrived.”

Or better yet, “I will cooperate 100%, but first I need my attorney.”

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I only meant “civil war” in that the Afghans were already fighting each other long before we arrived. All we did (initially) was offer some air support to the alliance that was fighting the Taliban. Agreed, I would not hold up Afghanistan as a model of civil society.

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We did one helluva lot more than air support,that’s for sure.Its really to bad our city streets are starting to resemble that place…minus ieds and RPGs.

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My HH6 told me once that Coarse describes me at times. :us:

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Thats for those boots you put on the ground :us: :us: :us: :us:

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Yes, the last 19 years of Afghanistan involved a lot more than air support. But if you look at our initial involvement, we essentially gave the Northern Alliance some SF to call in air strikes, and the Taliban was quickly pushed out to the hinterlands.

It got more complicated after that.

In hindsight, I’ve often wondered why we had to get more involved than merely assisting the Taliban’s enemies. At the time, some good idea fairy thought we should get involved in nation building. (There’s a lot of interesting history to that, too. The State Dept should have been in charge of nation building, but they can’t force State Dept employees to live in Afghanistan. The DOD can, and therefore got the job, against their strong objections.) 20 years later, we essentially handed the country back to the Taliban, despite evidence that a small force supporting the Afghans could hold them at bay.

That whole war was just two decades of bad decision making.

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Not disagreeing at all.Those decisions were made at infinitely higher pay grades than mine.

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