Propose Firearm Laws

Firearm Laws are Unconstitutional! :thinking: :grinning:

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WE have done the right thing and in the end if we have to do the right thing in defense of self or others we will be suspect because of the criminal elements we defend against.

WE must bear the burden of a judicial system bureacracy bent on everyone getting paid regardless of innocence or guilt. If we remain trapped in the bureacracy the more money to be had.

Thank a criminal and their family near you, because they most likely pumped a lot of money into this system to keep their “little angel” out of jail/prison to keep it fed and cover for their own failure.

Sorry BUT!

A wise elder told me many many years ago that kids are a DIRECT PRODUCT OF THEIR ENVIRONMENT.

Raise 'em up right boys 'cause 'fnya don’t it WILL reflect on YOU and YOUR bank account and feed the beast.

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I’m with you, mostly. But we do have/want certain people to not have access. Currently, that seems much too strict and that we’re maybe not on the right people who should be prohibited? Also, how we deal with those people when we do catch them is way off target.

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I agree with this.

Many of the laws around firearms should be repealed, leaving mostly intact the restrictions on who can and cannot purchase a firearm. One change in this regard is that the minimum age should be 17 nationwide, if you’re old enough to enlist in any branch of the military you are old enough to purchase a firearm.

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I tend to agree with that. And on the enforcement/punishment side we need few and clear laws that are actually enforced.

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Enforcement of existing constitutional laws would be nice. Though many firearms specific laws are redundant and covered already by other laws. Shouldn’t matter if you try to kill someone with a firearm or a butter knife. Either way you are a violent criminal who needs to be taken off the streets.

Though I am not against laws that limit violent criminals access to firearms, and other weapons, after they get out of jail or are just released straight back onto the streets. Given our revolving door justice system with incredibly low rehabilitation success rates, it seems to make sense to make it harder for known violent criminals to have easy access to weapons. Though there should be a due process method for regaining their right to self defense if they can reasonably demonstrate they are no longer a threat to society.

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So, the Menendez brothers could get their 2A rights back?

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When someone commits a crime and is sentenced to prison, he loses most of his rights for a predetermined period of time. After he has served his sentence, why should all his fundamental rights not be restored? He gets back his right to liberty, but denying his ability to defend himself may actually cost him his right to life. It seems odd that some fundamental rights are lost forever from one mistake, while other rights are restored quickly.

My feeling is, if we let someone out of prison that we don’t trust to legally own a gun, then we shouldn’t have let him out in the first place. With that, I also feel that way too many people are let out that never should be let out.

So, in the real world, yeah, denying violent felons the right to ever own a gun may be necessary, because we let out violent felons who should be locked away for life, but if the system worked right, people should get all their rights restored if they’ve truly paid their debt (my $0.02 only).

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I don’t think they could ever reasonably demonstrate that they are no longer a threat to society.

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In which case, they shouldn’t be let out. Simple as that.

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If a criminal wants a gun they are going to get one whether they have the right or not. The law only stops people who want to get them legally and gives the law enforcement the right to take them away if they have them illegally. That and $9.49 will get me a coffee at Starbucks

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The bar needs to be to be set very high for murderers and repeat violent criminals but if someone can demonstrate that they have served their time and after a reasonable probationary period have shown they are now productive members of society and are not more likely than other law abiding citizens to repeat their crimes then I think there should be a process that allows them to prove that the deserve to get their rights back.

As @Joseph488 Joseph points out, in an ideal world, violent criminals would not be released from prison until they have served their entire punishment and we can be sure they are no longer a threat. But that is just never going to be a reality.

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I think this is an important tool for crime prevention that is not used often enough. Yes it’s easy for previously convicted violent criminals to illegally purchase firearms on the street. But if they have not yet proven they are no longer a threat to society and deserving of having their full rights restored then getting caught illegally carrying a weapon gives LEOs a chance to get them off the street before they have a chance to use it.

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This is more like I’m venting, how about have them clearly answer laws on buying firearms.
Methinks we don’t need 25 laws, 10 is plenty.

Who - American citizens

  • legal/resident aliens
  • old enough to join the military

What - no “high capacity” magazine restrictions
-particularly in CA, no Roster of Handguns that lists what’s legal for subjects to purchase

  • also in CA, no “for LE only” guns, reducing non -LE to second-class citizens

When - no 10-day waiting period

Where - FFLs, remove the left’s argument that it’s easier to buy a gun than borrow a book from the library

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The 2 A SHOULD NOT BE MESSED WITH. Pass a once and for ever law that stares NO LAWS SHALL EVER BEN WRITTEN THAT DEALS WILL FIREARMS EVER AGAIN .Remove all STATE LAWS THAT MESSES WITH FIREARMS., FOR EVER LAW.

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Works for me. Like stated in the Constitution.

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