Police checking gun cabinets are important

What has caused you to think about this subject? Could you tell us how or why this has entered your mind?

I am not being a smart alec, I am interested in your reasoning on the matter.

2 Likes

Do they also check to see if the food in my fridge is expired or that all of the all of the chemicals in my cleaning closet are properly labeled… or maybe the knives in my kitchen are too sharp or pointy

Why is it any of their business where and how I keep my legal personal property

15 Likes

Countries that require firearms to be locked up and inspected tend to not have gun accidents and homicides in the home.

If can show other countries that guns in the home for self defence in the home and not vilified, we can teach them.

All I ask is for police inspections, not taking away guns for self defence

I was about to comment along the same lines, but mention anatomy not an appliance.
An adult wants authorities to check on his private property and say words of approval. I get it, no reason to feel ashamed about these feelings.

So what are they inspecting?
1.) serial numbers
2.) functionality
3.) whether or not they need to be cleaned
4.) after market changes
5.) ammo capacity
6.) where and how they are stored
7.) what types of ammo

And how would any of this make any difference in safety. If you don’t know how to operate and store your personal property why is the government’s responsibility or right to tell you, but if this works there are a lot of drivers who be better served with this infringement or personal liberty

4 Likes

Parkland shooter locked his guns in a cabinet. It is well documented.

3 Likes

Inspecting

1.) serial numbers
2.) functionality
3.) whether or not they need to be cleaned
4.) after market changes
5.) ammo capacity
6.) where and how they are stored
7.) what types of ammo

Terrible analogy, we have free will to follow the God of our choosing. Nobody is forced to follow God. You enter a voluntary agreement with christ when you accept him into your life.

6 Likes

What does that have to do with the police checking firearms once every 5 yrs for saftey?

If someone doesn’t believe in God and hasn’t accepted him into their life what would they be worried about.

If there’s a hell there’s a God and if there’s a God there’s a hell. But that has absolutely NOTHING to do with the government telling people how to secure firearms

4 Likes

To be a little petty the word for making a book is write. Rights are what are what this country is founded on

But when one doesn’t have facts to make one’s point the only thing left is to call names

Goodbye I have better things to do

Community violation removed, rest of comment left. ~Dawn

3 Likes

I’m not troll

Thanks, Alexander

image

4 Likes

I wish you were. The alternative is too disturbing to contemplate.

1 Like

I’m sorry sir in no way could I agree to this. It’s like people saying yeah you can search my house I have nothing to hide. Sorry if a government official comes to my home to inspect something, anything, they will need a warrant as prescribed by OUR Constitution. I don’t care what other countries do they can decide how their system works. But here in this country they HAVE to obtain a warrant to enter my home. It is absolutely none of their business how I store or what I have or how much I have. There is no negotiation on this. Stay safe all. And stand strong for Our Constitution.

9 Likes

And their warrant better be specific, I know exactly how many rolls of toilet paper I have!

5 Likes

I do not have a gun safe at this time as there is only my wife and me in the house and didn’t have any guns when we had kids in the house. I am considering one to store extra guns if someone breaks into our home. If someone visits our home, rare these days, I put them in the trunk of my car.

2 Likes

Stephen,

here’s the deal…I know you’re trying to find a solution to what you see as a problem and I absolutely support that…but I need you to stop and really think about this for a second.

  1. You want to ignore our 4th Amendment right which states:
    The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized. You can’t "force people to allow Police to search their homes and gun safe without erasing our constitutional rights.
  2. Who exactly will be “searching our gun safe?” Police have 1 job. to collect evidence for the DA to prosecute…period. Their whole job is to secure evidence against you. don’t get me wrong, I love police…and many try to help where they can but their entire job is to “uphold the law” and in doing so, their first and foremost duty is to collect evidence of any crime. SOOOOOOOO, how sure are you that you are 100% legal? Do you know all the laws pertaining to firearms that may or may not apply to you? When you invite an officer into your home and they see something non-firearm related that is not permitted…are you ready to accept that you go to jail while it gets resolved? How sure are you that you are adhering to the current laws?
  3. Who will allocate resources to going door to door to check gun safes? I ask because clearly you have no idea the workload police already have so adding one more thing to their plate is simply naive. Police already are spread thin enough…so who will go door to door and have the authority to “require” gun owners to comply? What happens when someone says no? Those of us who value the constitution and know our rights…we are Law Abiding but certainly don’t want to open our doors to our home or our gun safes to scrutiny and skepticism. While I am certainly law abiding…if someone showed up at my door looking to check my safe, I’d happily tell him where to shove it and I have absolute certainty that there’s nothing in my safe that is illegal. I am just a constitutionalist and know my rights.
  4. how do you enforce such a law? You state it has to happen, but do you know how much it will cost, the manpower required, additional resources required and the negative impact it would have overall? Have you really thought this through or are you just blinding living in your fantasy thinking this sounds lovely on paper and never actually took the time to really comprehend the full picture?

My issue with a lot of people is they come up with an idea and think their job is done. Problem is, they rarely consider the pro’s and the con’s, consider the costs, consider the impact, and really think it through to realize their idea is “F#$King stupid!” Not to say your idea is such…but it is. If we were to use a marathon analogy…you got to mile marker 1 and gave up. You didn’t even get to the second mile and certainly didn’t reach the finish line. Why? because you feel that bypassing our constitutional rights to prevent illegal search and seizure, right to prevent us from implicating ourselves in a crime is somehow unimportant.

Case in point. One example of why you DON’T invite investigators (aka Police) to “check out your home/safe” is:

This guy tried to do the right thing and unfortunately wasn’t aware he broke some ambiguous law and ended up screwing himself. You’d like us to all open ourselves and our families up to that? How very considerate of you.

UK Firearms Inspections DO NOT APPLY in the US because the UK doesn’t have a constitution that protects their right to bare arms. Quoting some nonsensical information on the UK’s method simply doesn’t apply. I’d wager you’ve never been outside the US and certainly never lived outside the US because most people who live sheltered lives that I know tend to have opinions like yours. I have…and England is about 100,000 square miles. To put that into perspective…California is about 164,000 square miles. So, the entire country could fit in a single state here in the US. Think about that for a second. The issues of their entire country are about the same as a single state in our country. Kinda of pathetic that you try and compare such a tiny place to our ENTIRE COUNTRY isn’t it? Not to mention that the UK resides on an island while we are nestled in between Canada and Mexico and our continent is connected to South America and all their lovely issues as well…or did you forget that we keep gettin immigrants from Venezuela and El Salvador every year?

I guess my last point is quite simply, why should I give a rat’s behind how my neighbor feel’s about MY firearms? At what point did our country go from, we are all free to live our lives to, we need to make our neighbors happy no matter how we feel? I don’t like golf. In fact, I absolutely hate golf. Should I push to have all golf shut down and all golf courses closed because I don’t like it? Should everyone say screw the people who love golf because I don’t like it? Why are firearms any different? I’m tired of placating the butt hurt idiots out there who don’t like guns. Life is what it is…it doesn’t cater to everyone and everyone can’t always get what they want. We all live the lives we want and have to accept that others will live their lives as they see fit. I can no sooner dictate how others should live than you or some anti-gun douche can dictate how I live. Why do you want to placate and make everyone happy? You can’t!!

Lastly, F#$K piece of mind. Grow thicker skin and stop thinking the world revolves around your rear. It’s time we stop pampering everyone and once again remind people that we ALL have a right to live as we choose. If you want to bend over and “receive it” from everyone, that’s your business…but stop thinking the rest of us should also.

12 Likes

Wait a minute, while they are there keeping you safe from yourself and preventing gun accidents they can:
Check your computer and phone to make sure you are not viewing child pornography
Audit your financial records to make sure you are fiscally responsible.
Check under your sink for improperly stored draino, bleach, and other cleaners which could be toxic.
Verify no unsecured tide pods on the washing machine (we know what dumb arse kids do with them now days)

Anyone else care to add to list of lunacy???

4 Likes

That’s the thing. What ‘safe storage’ means could vary wildly from one residence to the next. Having a uniform code could make some firearms owners less safe.

3 Likes