Here’s a local example of a good guy chasing the bad burglar with a gun. Not a good or smart idea.
Once they run the threat is over, you can’t chase and detain them at gunpoint.
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K.I.S.S
Keep It Simple Stupid
Defend life not property.
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Exactly - it’s self-defense, not stuff-defense.
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That depends on the conditions and what state you are in.
You cannot in most states legally pursue them and keep shooting but you absolutely can pursue them to try and keep them in sight till LEO’s arrive in any state.
Know your state laws and apply an ample amount of common sense before doing so.
We’re Self Defenders, not LEO’s and not Vigilantes.
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Depends on the property and how easily or if at all it can be replaced.
Fortunately our laws are much more “user friendly” in that ragard than in many States.
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I agree, defend life not property. However, Missouri seems to allow the use of force in defense of private property, but I’m no legal expert on this. Anybody have more insight on Missouri’s law. I’ve read 563.301 numerous times but it’s a bit difficult.
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@Michael7 here’s some info on missouri law:
so… the way I read that is there are some circumstances under which defense of property is allowed, or restraint of an attacker is allowed, but you may be required to provide a positive justification for doing so. BIG DISCLAIMER I’m not an attorney.
@Dawn maybe we can get the legal team to weigh in on this?
What it comes down to for me is if it’s property it can be replaced.
In some states I can use lethal force to defend property, but does that mean I should use lethal force to defend property?
No property I own is worth another person’s life.
Wow, that legalese is as thick as a deep south accent! I’ll see what I can find for y’all!
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Exactly WR!
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WIth my usual disclaimer with respect to the laws of a state where I am not authorized to practice law, MO laws seem very consistent with Kentucky law. Use of deadly force appears to be authorized for the protection of self or others, as long at the “others” would be authorized to use deadly force. MO allows the restraint of a person for the protection of property and reasonable force, excluding deadly force, can be used in protecting that property. MoRS 563.041(3). The caveat to the use of deadly force in the defense of property falls under the castle doctrine. If a person enters your home or vehicle, you can use deadly force.
It is summed up in section 2 of MoRS 563.031,
“ 2. A person shall not use deadly force upon another person under the circumstances specified in subsection 1 of this section unless:
(1) He or she reasonably believes that such deadly force is necessary to protect himself, or herself or her unborn child, or another against death, serious physical injury, or any forcible felony;
(2) Such force is used against a person who unlawfully enters, remains after unlawfully entering, or attempts to unlawfully enter a dwelling, residence, or vehicle lawfully occupied by such person; or
(3) Such force is used against a person who unlawfully enters, remains after unlawfully entering, or attempts to unlawfully enter private property that is owned or leased by an individual, or is occupied by an individual who has been given specific authority by the property owner to occupy the property, claiming a justification of using protective force under this section.”
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If I remember correctly, you can use force to protect property to some point in Louisiana. But if they are running away? Try to get a description of them, or maybe a plate number on the car.
I ain’t chasing them! Way too many things could go sideways when you do encounter the law…
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or even if you don’t. They could decide to turn and fight. They could involve innocent bystanders. You could catch them, and lose. You could catch them and win and get sued by their family. LOTS of bad things could happen there.
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