Law Enforcement Response in Uvalde Shooting Was 'Abject Failure,' Official Says

[Layton]

They disartrmed one oficerr and took him out of the school when his wife,a teacher texted hin and said she was shot and dying,and the officers around him too his weapon and escorted him from the building

[Ronald150]

With body armor, rifle, and ballistics shield, which LEOs had in the school hallway, and GUTS is all it would have taken to waltz into the classroom right onto the shooter’s face and take him DOWN.

[Zavier_D]

@Alexander8

I saw a link a while ago to how layered security principle is applied in schools in Israel,

I’ve trained with Israeli troops, and more importantly been trained by Israeli troops. There is a reason that the Israeli airline El Hal has had 1, that’s right 1, hijacking in it’s history (that was in 1968). It’s not politically correct, but they discriminate. If you fit the profile, they WILL jack you the f*ck up. Period. Israel has a certain mindset that we should be willing to entertain.

In my military career, I had the honor to train with or be trained by several allied nations troops. Israel was by far the most hardcore. There are parts of the Israeli mindset that I believe we could/should emulate. If push came to shove and I couldn’t be an American citizen, the country that I would want to be a citizen of is Israel and I’m not Jewish

There is a way to protect our children in schools but the problem is twofold. Until, the political will comes to bear this will remain a problem l.

[Robert1246]

I am a jew, and it’s pretty hard to make Aaliyah.

[Mike164]

We used to have that

@Zavier_D

certain mindset

Then in the 70’s-80’s things started to change, fast forward 40 years and we’ve come to a point where the safety of the saviors is more important than the safety of ducking 3rd graders.

[Zavier_D]

I know a lot of LEO’s due to my K-9 donations and 2nd Amendment advocacy. Personally. None of those I know have had anything but disgust for the “Coward in Broward” and the law enforcement response in Uvalde.

They share my thought that it’s their job to run toward the fire. Especially when there are children involved.

I know the sheer adrenaline soaked charge that comes from someone threatening my child, or someone else’s children. I’ve lived it. I know how I responded. I believe every LEO I know would respond exactly like me.

There are so many of you on this forum that I know would rise to the occasion if needed. It’s why I don’t understand Uvalde. I will never understand it. I can wrap my head around one guy who is in charge being scared or whatever the f*ck he was, I can’t wrap my head around all of those who waited though. Or not allowing those who wanted to go in go.

[William191]

@Zavier_D

can’t wrap my head around all of those who waited though. Or not allowing those who wanted to go in go.

Bahahahaha-is what the sheep say

[BRUCE26]

ABC News

City of Uvalde releases records from 2022 Robb Elementary shooting

City records related to the 2022 Robb Elementary School shooting were released on Saturday after two years of litigation with a media coalition.

More than a dozen news organizations, including The Texas Tribune, ABC News and the Associated Press, filed suit in 2022 after repeatedly denied open records requests.

The records released include police body camera footage, 911 calls and other communications from Uvalde city officials and the police department related to the school shooting and its immediate aftermath.

Only minutes after the shooting had stopped, the shooter’s uncle called 911 and said he might be able to talk the 18-year-old attacker into surrendering, records released show.

In this May 24, 2022, file photo, an officer walks outside of Robb Elementary School in Uvalde, Texas.© Allison Dinner/AFP via Getty Images, FILE

“I think he might listen to me,” the man, who identified himself as Armando Ramos, told a 911 dispatcher. “He does listen to me.”

When the dispatcher put him on hold briefly, Ramos can be heard saying to someone: “I think he’s shooting kids. He has the classroom hostage.”

Among the trove of material released by city officials, a 911 call recounts the early moments of the shooting, including a man screaming to dispatcher operators: “Oh my God in the name of Jesus, he’s inside the school shooting at the kids.”

The release includes survivors’ calls for help, including fourth-grader Khloie Torres pleading from inside the classrooms.

“Please hurry, there’s a lot of dead bodies,” Khloie said. “Please, I’m going to die.”

In this May 24, 2022, file photo, law enforcement, and other first responders, gather outside Robb Elementary School following a shooting in Uvalde, Texas.© Dario Lopez-Mills/AP, FILE

ABC News previously obtained material related to the shooting, delving into the cascading series of failures by law enforcement in the news special “Crisis of Command” that premiered last year on ABC News Prime and Hulu.

Uvalde police body cameras had been released in July 2022 only two months after the shooting, showing confusion around the law enforcement command structure and a lack of coordination among officers to confront the shooter.

The massacre at Robb Elementary was one of the deadliest school shootings in the United States. Nineteen children and two teachers were killed at Robb Elementary on May 24, 2022. The incident took law enforcement 77 minutes to breach the classroom.

Law enforcement officers stage in a hallway after Salvador Ramos entered Robb Elementary school to kill 19 children and two teachers in Uvalde, Texas, on May 24, 2022 in a still image from surveillance video.© Texas House Investigative Commitee via Reuters, FILE

In June, the former Uvalde school district police chief Pete Arredondo and a second school officer Adrian Gonzales were charged with felony counts of abandoning or endangering a child during the police response at Robb Elementary. Both Arredondo and Gonzales pleaded not guilty.

No other responding law enforcement officers have been indicted.

ABC News’ Josh Margolin contributed to this report.

[Zavier_D]

@BRUCE26

Please hurry, there’s a lot of dead bodies,” Khloie said. “Please, I’m going to die.”

How anyone could hesitate to go in after a call like that is unfathomable.

[Shamrock]

I had read that there were several LEOs and several parents who attempted to go in as soon as they got there. But they were physically restrained by other LEOs and kept from going in!!!

[Zavier_D]

I know, that’s what makes this doubly distressing. I understand that the Supreme Court ruled Castle Rock v Gomez that the police have no obligation to protect the Public. But, f*ck me running. How do you ,as a Human Being, not storm the place. I can’t imagine how horrific that had to be.

I remember that day very well. I found a number online and sent 10 pizzas that day to the Uvalde Police Department.

[deranged]

Mass cowardice.

[Enzo_T]

As I mentioned in another post, they sat around scratching their collective asses in FEAR, for a very loooooooooong time until a BORTAC team literally pushed right past them and took the gunman out in just seconds.

That’s not even their jurisdiction or job!!! They just happened to be in the area and let’s just say “motivated” to take over for very good reasons.

[Mike164]

They were afraid of the kid with the gun? I’ve trained with the “Real” SWAT guys, they are not afraid, they have numbers, tactics, equipment and training. Guaranteed the cops I trained around wouldn’t have been afraid of a single gunman, a ducking kid, with a gun… BUT maybe the women and men wee have around here are different.