I agree 100 percent with practicing your stance, very important. How important it is to make that first shot count. I also believe that in that situation you canât worry to much about your stance, no time. When you have to react quickly like that clerk did it is a point and shoot situation while also looking for cover. We can learn a lot from this video. One thing I always learn is how quickly this happens and how quickly you have to react.
He needs to clean up his work area. Iâm thinking he bought a firearm with no thought of practice, I have a gun mentality.
Maybe he missed that first shot because he was worried about his pants falling down.
Looking at his garment, especially lower back area with visible âPanama Canalâ I would not expect any training nor practice from himâŠ
They say, stance is not important⊠or is important (depending on Instructor), but itâs mostly misinterpretation.
Itâs not about how we should keep feet, bend knee or how far extended the arms⊠All these are very dynamic and cannot be measured or remembered.
We discussed this several times on other threads⊠Stance is just a regular, normal everyday posture with added technique of proper handgun handling.
To be honest this guy could be taken down with closed eyesâŠ
Although we still see formal stances like Weaver, Chapman, and Isosceles taught in USCCA, NRA, and MAG classes, the reality for self defense is having a stance that is stable and allows a good gun grip and sight picture. In this video John mentioned the value of practice when kneeling. Givens and Ayoob both include shooting from kneeling in their classes. For a discussion on non-standard shooting positions, see Correiaâs recent ASP Extra video on Suboptimal positions: https://youtu.be/ix5LDTT8vrM
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Looks like the clerk set up his own rat trap for himself! Guess he figured if he canât get out, no one can get in!
Lot of rounds flying around, and no hits from 3-5â?
Thatâs what happens when people shoot from booth range only⊠claiming they practice a lotâŠ
That happens a lot.
One thing people underestimate IMO is the need to use the sights, even âcloseâ. Youâre moving, theyâre moving, youâre under stress, youâre wearing whatever you are wearing not your ârange clothesâ, itâs cold with no warmup, only hits countâŠget the sight on the target
Unfortunately most of such incidents come with pattern:
âOh, s.h.i.tâŠ, s.h.i.t., s.h.i.t.â
Pew, pew, pew
âOh, f&$#, f&$#,f&$#!!!â
Pew,pew.
Pew, pew.
And 7 misses.
In Ayoobâs class he gives very specific evidence and testimony that successful shooters in real events, primarily police officers, actually do have time to and do use their sights.
Exactly
I have a number of Masâ books and have watched content in video from as well (through ACLDN and YT). He isnât the only one sharing and forwarding the real world experience of many who at times are not only capable of using their sights (and fast) but in some cases remember vividly focusing on the front sight with more clarity than anything else they had ever seen in their life, and all in the blink of an eye.
It seems a recurring theme from those stories, other than attack-ending hits in a hurry, is a pattern of consistently practicing/training to pick up the sight
Other people say they donât remember seeing the sights at all. But I propose even in those cases that doesnât necessarily mean they didnât, as people also donât remember drawing their gun out of level 3 retention duty holsters (IE, they clearly manipulated those multiple retention devices whether they remember doing so or not)