Do you or do you not?

Our signs do not hold the weight of law. :grinning_face:

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“Oh, look hon, they have an opening for an assistant controller in Reno, NV!” :grin:

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And they give a free case of ammo to refugees from California . :wink:

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30.06 is no concealed carry allowed 30.07 is no open carry allowed and last but not least 30.05 is unlicensed carry prohibited.

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Gotcha. We just have a no guns allowed sign

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Here they have to post it with specific wording and must be posted a specific way or it carries no weight and a business that make 51% of it’s revenue from alcohol consumption on premises must post a 51% sign and that is automatically no firearms allowed

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Make sure your own loved ones and you have concealment, cover, that they escape with you, call 911. No shame in ducking down.

Even off duty police there – if as a last resort, if they think of using lethal force to stop a threat to life, they have to consider the innocent people in the backdrop. You’re responsible for every one of your bullets.

Just guessing in “that” moment, I might not really know what’s going on. For the most part, society may not require that we intervene directly.

I cannot think of a more serious or bigger sacrifice one can ever make than he decision to use such force. Affecting one’s life even greater than marriage, taking a job, or buying a house.

Or, might it risk going from two persons shooting one another to now, three or more.

I know there have been stopping of an active shooter, and I ought respect that. i can only guess, the brave heroes were able to study the situation.

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Run away. Don’t get involved with unpredictable idiots. Anything bad that happens is on them.

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Agreed (Today). Things have changed. We have changed. These Criminals that ran this Country have really pulled the wool over our eyes and now the Scrambling for the Lifeboats for these .gov- Scvmbags have left their unhinged Sheep roaming around rudderless because they KNOW they lost this WAR. Survival of the slimy Rich. The rest of us now witness random shootings, public shootings, random face punching, thrown on train tracks and so many atrocities too numerous to list. No candy coating here from me. IT’S GOING TO BE GREAT!, BUT IT AIN’T RIGHT NOW. They’ve created Generations of Crazy, needy, weird Socialists!, Unhinged and Angry that Mao isn’t coming back from the dead and all they have is Jefferies and Newsome to NOT guide them… Defunded Police, Make Villain’s out of Law Enforcement? NOPE

Going to the Mall FOR ANYTHING is an unnecessary risk (for me). I’m out and about most days not cowering in a corner but I darn sure weigh the risks before I venture out these days.

Seeing two guy’s I DON’T KNOW (and as mentioned earlier) are THEY alone? run n gunnin’? NO THANK YOU! I’m outta there! gather my little flock and head for home. Christmas @ a Mall? Are you serious, Malls are bullet magnets now!

A famous ‘Tautology’ said by a CIA Spook ‘Dan’ (Jason Clarke) said ‘WE DON’T KNOW WHAT WE DON’T KNOW’ in Zero Dark 30. This Mall shoot? One could be a ‘Good Guy’! Undercover Narc, DEA, Homeland, BP… I’ve done some hairy sh!t in my day but I NEVER CAPPED a Good Guy. Ever. Not going to start now and certainly not intervene. No Bueno from this Cat. Let Natural Selection take it’s course. When I was walking around an Airbase or a Public street I am responsible for my own A**es safety (and folk’s in my circle). Other than that I SEE NO BADGE ON ME?, NO CAPE?, No Spartan Sword N Shield. I see ME! and I don’t want anymore holes in ME! I’ve grown fond of NOT seeing Medical equipment in my Bedroom, No IV stands or Wheel chairs. I don’t want to rekindle that relationship—ever.

EVEN WITH Gun Insurance your life will change after a shoot—NO DOUBT!. MAKE DAMN SURE YOU KNOW WHAT YOU’RE FIGHTING FOR!. Taking a life sucks make sure you know who’s side they are on… You can’t? Do not engage!

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Remember, not even LEO’s have a duty or are legally required to protect individuals. If the professionals can pick and choose how to handle such situations then so can I.

My only *duty* is to protect my family and myself.

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Assuming I could figure out what was going in time, get my family to safety (because them dragging me to a mall is the only way you’ll see me in one) and engage any direct threat to me. No percentage in getting into a bar fight with guns.

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Pistoleros all over Texas!!! :rofl:

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Ya never think you’re the only one carring in Texas I know a 82 year old lady that has A 9mm on her at all times and is a pretty good shot. We are a State then can protect itself.

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To me, it isn’t about protecting oneself, it is the risk of guessing who the bad guy(s) is. Even if you’re that lucky, you have no idea of the firestorm if his little army comes for you and your family later. Simply not worth it unless it is me, my loved one, or someone that I care a LOT about. Enough to ruin my own life and that of my family/friends.

The words above. Times have changed. We have changed. I used to love to help out a stranded motorist. Not now.

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In a lot of states, ‘no guns’ signs do not have the force of law, but if asked to leave and you don’t then trespassing. However states like Texas and Illinois the signs have force of law if the language is right.

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Tough question. I would look for opportunities to end the threat, but try to do so without further endangering the public.

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Not my clown car, not my clowns.

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I hear you, despite our meaning well, as opposed to police or military in the field who have special training and even legal support, we “dirty” civilians might not, thus we have to be extra careful if, when, and how far to intervene - if we make a mistake, have an accident - there are no greater consequences.

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After relocating to Utah from Commiefornia, we went to the State Capitol for a 2nd Amendment rally. I was cautious about entering the Capitol with my edc pistol so I locked it in my trunk.

As we entered the building , I walked up to three State Officers and asked them if the Capitol was a no carry zone. They looked at me and asked, where are you from? I told them and they laughed. I laughed back and said, I LOVE YOU GUYS!!!

I carry every day and if the business or mall doesn’t allow carry… I refuse to do any business with them!

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Yep,many of us carry cocealed and open up there on the hill. Drives the left wingers nuts, they just can’t figure out how, with all of those firearms, not a single person get’s shot…

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