Denied UPIN based on an ARREST from 2014

Michigan- So I used to have a Domestic Assault and a few Driving On Suspendeds, all from 2004 or before. Tried to get them expunged once, failed, then Whitmer signed the Clean Slate into law, so I was finally able to expunge everything August of last year and have a clean record for the first time in 19 years! Purchased my first gun September of last year and a few others since. After a few months of range time, training and practice I filed for my CPL end of January, and received it February 23rd.
As a celebration I went in to buy a Glock from Sportsmans and got delayed like always. The last couple times it only took 2 to 4 days. This time its been 2½ weeks and still in delayed status. After the first 7 days I got fed up and filed for a UPIN so I didn’t have to worry about it anymore. Just got an email stating I was denied for having prohibitive information on my record and gives the police department I need to contact, the arrest case number, and the date of arrest. The problem is that its just THAT, an ARREST! There were never any charges brought up, I was never arraigned, charged, processed or anything! I was dumb and had loose pills from a valid script in my pocket and by the time I got to the jail, my wife brought up my prescription and proved everything was valid and the pills in my pocket matched my script and I had the proper amount left for the remainder of the month. After 2 years it was brought up when I tried to be a chaperone at my kids school, I got a letter from the lead detective, sent it into Michigan State Police, and they removed it but I guess that was just on the state level? How do I get it removed from the federal level? The local police department its through said they have no way to do anything with the FBI and I cant ever get a live person at the FBI to figure out what I can do? Do I really need to hire a damn lawyer and fork out $2000 to get an arrest wiped from my record? What happened to “Innocent until proven guilty?”


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I strongly suspect the answer to your question is yes. Probably not what you want to hear but seems to be the way these things often go. Interesting that you’re getting a long delay this time but not on the earlier purchases. I don’t know if the length of delay is up to the individual who looks at the paperwork or maybe the availability of staff to look into it??


Ya I kinda ■■■■■■■■■■■■■■ bullshit that we always gave to prove innocence instead of them proving guilt…


Simply, yes you do. Is it worth the aggravation of having to do it yourself AND worrying about whether you missed something and messed it up.


Welcome to the family brother and I am sorry you are going through this. Glad to have you on board with us.


So an update: I found the old letter from the arresting police department stating they were never going to pursue charges and that I was never charged and uploaded it to the VAF file where you upload the fingerprints. The next day they approved it! :partying_face::partying_face::partying_face: Went in and attempted to buy a gun with the UPIN and still got denied…I’m still attempting to get the arrest completely removed from the FBI/ATF database but no one seems to know how to do it!