If you’re able to get to your car to retrieve your gun, forget retrieving the gun and just get the hell out of there.
The problem is that someone has to go out to the front and crank the engine while someone else adjusts the spark lever.
I carry one in the chamber unless I’m at my sisters house and I have my nieces and nephews jumping all over me and stuff I know it’s still safe but it’s just a me thing makes me feel better
I wrote this question over 1 year ago really regarding the Sig P320 with the unintentional discharging of the firearm. It seems everyone else is talking about how they carry instead of the real question of unintentional discharge. So once again, Sig firearms were discharging without a finger on the trigger, that’s why I stopped carrying one in the chamber. My question to the group is, do you feel Sig completely fixed the problem with the “upgrade” or is there still issues out there? Please no analogies of seatbelts or big sticks. Does anyone know if there has been any unintentional discharges after the upgrade?
I don’t know of any after the updates or after the voluntary updates when sent in.
If I owned a p320 and was worried about that, I would simply stop carrying P320’s and carry something else, condition 1. But that’s just me. I suppose that would fall under the “different gun” portion of my suggestions.
I have owned my P320-M17 for 3 years. I have received nothing from Sig about any recall. I did register with Sig and have gotten upgrade information and other offers from them. Over a thousand rounds fired with no stoppages or any other issue.
I have managed to drop it twice from waist height (don’t ask how I managed that). Once on gravel and the other onto concrete. The weapon was chambered in both instances and the safety was off. Nothing happened thank God.
I am quite confident that the issue was dealt with. I would imagine that the Army dropped the heck out of it when being evaluated for the new service pistol, M17-M18 trials.
There is apparently a pending lawsuit, and in response to an earlier lawsuit, Sig offered to refund or replace P320s made before 2017.
Sig Sauer Is Sued Over Pistol Critics Say Goes off by Itself (usnews.com)
There were apparently some changes made to the P320 after 2017.
Is the SIG P320 Drop Safe? [2022] (minutemanreview.com)
There is a lot of info out there on the net, but it’s hard to track the current status if the links don’t have a date on them.
I have 2 full size 320’s, I carried one of them without any issues. As @Ouade5 stated I believe if it was made after a certain date in 2017, the problem was corrected. If I remember correctly, you can go onto SIG’s website and run the serial number to see if it is in the recall time frame. I did this earlier last year and both were good.
Wow, good info.
Here is the webpage where you can enter your P320’s serial number.
P320 Voluntary Upgrade Program | SIG SAUER
Thanks for the update. I’ll check out the info you sent.
Rogers
There is an easy way to check your P320 and determine if your handgun is drop-safe or not.
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TRIGGER
the new trigger mass has been reduced and looks narrower:
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SLIDE CUT NEXT TO STRIKER CHANNEL:
- NEW DISCONNECTOR, WHICH CORRESPONDS WITH SLIDE’S CUT
Photos courtesy of Hammer Striker YT Channel
Good research and reporting. Well-done.
Which video are you referring to? I would like to view it. Can you drop a link?
I have a P320 and I stopped carrying one in the chamber. The reason is they ( Sig.) had some reports of unintented discharges in the holster and I was on edge about one in the pipe. Since then, I practice with drawing and racking the slide to the target. I think I do it fast, and hope the day my life depends on it, I will do it faster than the bad guy. I don’t think I’ll ever be in a situation were 1 second will take my life. ( I pray that I will be situational aware of my surrounding and be ready).
That was in response to a USCCA video that @Craig_AR shared on 10 April, about chambering a round.
Did you check your serial number to see if you have the older model or the upgrade? Perhaps this is no longer an issue you need to be concerned about.
P320 Voluntary Upgrade Program | SIG SAUER
I KNOW I’ll be chastised for this, but putting it out there anyway.
For my personal choice, I’ll go with statistics.
The chances of a negligent or accidental discharge on my part greatly outweigh the chances of my ever having to use my firearm to protect myself or others in self defense. (let’s hope the odds continue in my favor)
Given this choice, my best hope if the stats don’t go in my favor (unfortunately, stats are just tools and educated guidelines) is to train train train on the draw stroke, slide rack and target acquisition, hoping an extra second won’t be too slow to save my or someone elses’ life.
If/when I sadly defy the odds, the “chambered” proponents will have a field day with “We told you so!” and will have another arrow in their quiver for the next time someone brings it up. I’m willing to live with my choice.
In a military environment, I would likely make the opposite choice. These folks have been through things we civilians cannot even fathom, and the statistical odds of a lethal confrontation are greatly increased. God bless our active & veteran warriors and peace keepers. They are truly the tip of the spear, and I can’t respect and admire them enough.
Both are pretty low, though, right?
Kind of like my odds of winning the lottery vs my odds of being struck by lightening.
Agreed, both are low.
Difference between your example and mine lies in the “orders of magnitude”.
In my example, having to use my weapon or having an accidental/negligent discharge are both low probability, but there are orders of magnitude differences in the chances of occurrence for the AD/ND.
If I handle my weapon several times a day, every day, for years, there are FAR greater chances of an AD/ND versus using a weapon once for SD.
I love stats.
BTW, you have a much greater chance of getting hit by lightning than winning the powerball lottery.
My full size Sig P320 is the upgraded model and have not had any issues.