CCW Laws in California & Reciprocity

Legal & Second Amendment Reciprocity
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Hey guys!

Just a quick question. So of course brandishing is a big no-no, however, is there any laws regarding ‘verbal warning’ on using your ccw firearm for self defense? I get that some may regard the warning as a threat and only to use your firearm in life or death situations, but what if the warning can be/was used a de-escalation?

Also, my ccw class I took offered a multiple state reciprocity aside from the states that can be used with California’s CCW license. I was not able to take the class at the time, and the schedule conflicts with my work schedule. Is there any online classes that may offer a license that reciprocates multiples states?

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Welcome to the Community!
IMO there are better words to use as ‘verbal warning’ to deescalate.
To say “I have a gun” is tantamount to brandishing. Again JMHO.

When I initially applied for a CA CCW permit, UT nonresident was offered for an additional fee so I didn’t have to take a separate class. Perhaps, your instructor wasn’t certified for out of state.

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Depends on the law and the State

But for California. It’s a coin flip on whether anything is illegal or not

Take a coin and flip it up in the air. Did it come down? it’s a crime :stuck_out_tongue_closed_eyes: :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye: :rofl: :joy: :laughing:.

If it floats in the air, it’s still a crime :rofl: :joy: :laughing: :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye::stuck_out_tongue_closed_eyes:

All silliness aside, I’m pretty sure,

"*Yes, California has a law against terrorist threats, which is now known as the Criminal Threats law:"*

“California Penal Code Section 422
This law makes it illegal to threaten someone with violence or harm, even if the threat is not intended to be carried out.”

That’s at State level, there is also a Federal Nexus for
In the United States, making a terroristic threat is a federal crime that can be charged as a class C felony:

“18 U.S.C. § 2332b(c)(1)(g)
This law makes it a felony to threaten to commit a crime that could result in death or serious bodily harm. The threat must be intentional, unequivocal, and specific, and must cause a reasonable fear in the victim.”

“25 CFR § 11.402
This law makes it a misdemeanor to threaten to commit a violent crime with the intent to terrorize someone, cause an evacuation, or cause serious public inconvenience”.

I’m not going to argue how many Angels can dance on the head of a pin or what the definition of the word is, is. I’ve seen case Where informing someone you have a gun has been charged as a “terroristic threat.” At both the State and Federal level.

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Yeah you definitely have a good point on that part!

Thank you!

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I believe you answered your own question.
If you skin the leather you intend on using it, not to ‘warn’ someone.

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You can get an Arizona non-resident if you have a Calif CCW. All it takes is some paperwork, fingerprint card and a few dollars. Arizona permit is recognized in several states, and check the USCCA map for states where you can use it. Also, there are many constitutional carry states and no permit is needed.

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Welcome to the community.
The only time one can use a fire arm is if there is an imminent threat to one’s life or grave bodily harm. The only scenario I could think of is being in a parking lot and somebody is obviously going to try to attack you. I would give them a warning and say stay away I am armed. You would be de-escalating the situation by, not giving them the opportunity to attack you.

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Welcome SamoanKidd93, you need to check the laws in your own State to be 100% sure. The only time I would even consider a verbal warning of being armed would be someone trying to break into my home.

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I have the perfect answer to this question and that is stay the hell outta that ‘ country’ California is a foreign country who’s laws depends on the mood of who arrested you.

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Two options. The UT can easily be obtained at the same time if your instructor is approved by UT to do so. The other option, which requires no class at all, is the AZ. Pretty much covers the UT, but a few states. I have both and can carry pretty much across the entire US with the exception of the key liberal ones - OR, CO, IL, PA, NY, CT, NJ, MD, MA, RI, DC, HI and PR.

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