Buying For a Friend?

i’m 19 years old and live in Arizona. legally i can own and open carry a pistol at 18, buuut, the law says i can’t buy a gun until i’m 21. which makes complete sense to me sarcasm.

my question is, could my 21 year old friend, who owns guns for self-defense himself, buy a gun and gift it to me? i can legally own and carry one openly without a permit, but can’t buy one unless from a private seller. so does anyone know the laws in Arizona specifically regarding my 21 year old friend buying a gun and giving it to me to keep? would that be legal?

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Hi Liam,
So first off let me say I think these laws are STUPID. If you can legally carry, you should be able to legally purchase.
Now let’s talk about legalities. On the background check when you purchase a handgun, one of the questions asked is “are you the intended owner of this gun”. Answering No to this disqualifies the buyer right out of the gate. If your friend were to lie on the form, that would be breaking the law… generally a bad plan to ask friends to do that.
Any time someone buys a gun for someone else, its considered a “straw purchase” and the laws are written specifically to prevent that, as its a method criminals or restricted persons could use to purchase guns through normal sales channels.
There are other options to explore, however. What are the gun transfer rules to under-legal-purchase-age in your state? In some states, an immediate family member can transfer the firearm as a gift. You have to look at what “immediate family member” means though - last time I did this, it was in CA more than 10 years ago. At the time that meant spouse, parent, child. It didn’t mean grandparent, brother, sister, grandchild, or cousin. It definitely didn’t include friend.
In some states, you might be allowed to make a private party purchase or gift, but again you have to look at your state laws, and it may be different for long guns and handguns.
Have you taken a look at the Arizona laws on firearms transfer? That’s the place to start I think.

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@Zee I could not have said it any better!

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Yay! @MikeBKY, getting the thumbs up from the LEO/Lawyer on my homework is a good way to start my day :grin:

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@Zee :+1:
The fastest way to own the gun in this case is “Person-to-Person Transfer” from Parent to child.

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@Jerzy that’s where I’d start too, but I haven’t looked up the Arizona rules on how that’s done and the restrictions.

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@Zee… the laws are so confusing. This transfer is so easy in IL… Hopefully AZ has the same.

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You can view the Federal 4473 form online directly off ATF’s website.
First question: “Are you the actual transferee/buyer of the firearm(s) listed on this form?”
You can’t buy a gun for the other guy, this would be a straw purchase.
Now, bonafide gift of a firearm is completely legal.
On the last few 2 pages of the 4473 each section has a paragraph explaining more details behind what they are asking. Here is a screenshot:


If you read the whole thing it does not specify who the gift comes from. In fact they use an example of 'mr. Black and mr. Brown"
In this example, are you paying your friend back? -straw purchase.
This is JUST the 4473. I have no idea what other forms/hoops you have in AZ. Here in WI we have
a WI DOJ form that gets filled out for all handgun purchases. I could gift a firearm to Dawn if I wanted to (keep dreaming lady!) Some states only have the 4473 to fill out regardless of handgun vs long gun. In IL as example, both parties must have FOID cards for a gift (not sure if handguns are included with this) Certain states restrict the term ‘bonafide gift’ to mean direct family member as well. Basically, check AZ laws. Know them inside and out and keep checking in on them.

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What @Zee and @Kelly said. :slight_smile:

Do you have family in Arizona? Would your parents be able to assist you with the situation? I own firearms and my 19 year old sons have access to them whenever they would like to go to the range and train.

We’ve discussed open carry and they know my feelings on them open carrying. I want them to have more training before they open carry a firearm. And I also want to make sure they have the right holster (retention) for carrying.

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not too close to my mother, father is STRONGLY anti-gun and would feel morally wrong buying such a dangerous weapon (that could one day be used to save his son or daughter-in-law). my uncle is a gun owner but idk if he can legally gift me one.

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I just want to chime in to add that sometimes these laws are really REALLY dumb. Here in Michigan at 18 you can legally open carry a handgun, provided you are the owner of said handgun. From 18 to 20 you have to buy from a private seller, same as Arizona. I haven’t asked too much about gifting or anything like that, but there is a young lady I work with (she’s 20) who may be purchasing my XDs .45acp. A year ago I never dreamed I would consider selling it, but I have a new EDC so the XDs is just collecting dust now…

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