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20 minutes? If anyone watches, please post the bullet(ed) results and what it means to us and other Americans?
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I disagree with disarming felons who have served their time and have completed their debt to society. Anyone who serves their time, serves their probation and has paid back all moneys owed should be granted back any rights suspended during that time. Anyone who is too dangerous to ever posses a firearm again should never be released period.
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The government is trying to argue that a person convicted of drug possession is essentially a drug trafficker
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I actually agree with papa on this one
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Yep, hard to argue with your point.
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Because re arming violent felons fresh out of prison is a brilliant win for 2A! Said no victim ever.
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The victims are allowed to express their opinions just as we are. What we are not allowed to do is restrict the rights of individuals who are not imprisoned. We do understand the restriction of rights while being imprisioned/jailed. As Papa stated, if the person is too dangerous to society, that person should not be released into the general population.
Not being “allowed” to be armed does not appear to stop those that are not “allowed” from obtaining weapons and committing crime. Even a unarmed person can be a dangerous violent person. I believe there are innumerable reports of such crimes in the news.
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This would not be re-arming someone fresh out of prison, people who exit prison are still on probation, then they need to pay back all restitution. And no one should be exiting prison if they still pose a threat to society. Furthermore 28% of those serving in prison are there for crimes other than violent crimes. Those are definitely the individuals I would like to see fast tracked to getting their rights back after they have paid their debt.
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But we see that many are exiting prison are still a threat to society…so then what?
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There in lies the problem. And where PZs idea still needs some work
I agree though. Some people should be able to get their 2A rights restored.
For instance, a coworker of mine, young and dumb 30-35 years ago got caught transporting drugs. Did his time, got out, got married, had kids, and has been on the straight and narrow ever since.
No violence, wasn’t even actually selling…. Just a mule.
This ruling could very well restore his rights (his conviction was in Texas)
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I have to stop here and put on the brakes, some felons if violent crime and felonies involving domestic violence or robbery or rape. Your going to have to make exceptions to the rule when it comes to felons
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Every rule has exceptions. Seems better than the wild west though.
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The national recidivism rate for felons who re-offend after release is above 39%, slightly higher in CA. Are you willing to bet your family’s lives on guessing which ones won’t re-offend? Your reasoning that no one should be released who is too dangerous to ever possess a firearm again, is impractical and impossible to predict. Felons are, by definition, dangerous in one way or another. I’m fine with keeping guns out of their hands. They should have thought of the consequences of their actions before they committed the crime.
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And how do we do that? Laws only tell them they are not allowed to obtain, possess, but the reality - based on crime reports - is that felons do not abide by the law. A real shocker there. How about someone that has committed more than 3 violent felonies, either separately or in one crime spree doesn’t get to see the light of day. You want to bet your life or that of your wife and children on a 39% chance the felon won’t hurt you or your family?
How about the judges, DAs, parole boards, that prosecute these people and release them back into general society keep them in their homes for a year after release. Then if they don’t re-offend, we can then look at releasing them into society. I doubt they would agree to that, knowing the odds they will become victims.
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Let me ask you honestly, let’s say you made a “mistake” on your taxes and end up with a Felony. Do you really think you should be prohibited from ever owning a firearm again? Or maybe you ran a red light while distracted and hit someone in a crosswalk and they died, you end up with manslaughter charges. Again should you never be able to own a firearm again?
Look at Mark Wahlberg he made a mistake when he was young and dumb and to this day the only time he can hold a gun is a prop one in a movie. I mean Mel Gibson was able to get his back but it required the President of the United States to restore them for him. There are plenty of people out there who deserve to get their rights back as well.
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Little trivia on Mark Wahlberg. Back in 2001, he had a ticket to fly on one of the three airlines jets which were hijacked the fateful day, September 11th. He ran late and missed his flight.
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