accidental discharge ?

I think its healthy for the community to talk about both. I don’t care too much if a thread crosses over either way. As long as I can learn something from the discussion.

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Yeah. Discussion is the key for the knowledge.
But we have to avoid mistakes talking between each other here. Otherwise we forward these mistakes outside and one day it may look stupid…
It’s the same when we hear: “hi powered rifle” or “9mm round blows the lung out of the body”.

Agreed, but we cannot mix them.
Accident and negligence are completely different and it’s a huge difference regarding discharging the firearm.
So far most of us were posting about negligence, thinking about accidental discharge. And these are NOT the same.

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Maybe you should start your own thread on that topic and their differences ?

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Correction ;
Ok ok ok… I stand corrected…I had two —negligent— discharges … and yes I am highly embarrassed about it

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No needs for another thread. I just want all of us to use the proper names of the things we are experiencing and describing.

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You are correct. Neglience is due to a mistake on the part of the person with the firearm; accidental is due to a malfunction of the firearm. However, following the safety rules, in both instances, unless it is a total failure of the firearm, such as a chamber/barrel failure, we will still likely be safe.

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Perhaps one of the safest handlers of firearms are those who had the unfortunate incident of such an accident. Talk about “learning”. Could also make for a good teacher. It runs deep and serious.

:innocent:

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Or, better yet, learning safety first, or learning from other people’s experiences. Second worst (first being one’s own mistake) is, as a recently posted meme stated, learning from the mistakes of others that followed your advice… :sunglasses:

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Here we have a great example of what a firearm owner calls accidental discharge and what it’s defined as negligent discharge.

I’m hoping we’ll keep political discussion out of this thread.

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Agreed, the political party was not involved in the neglient discharge. One other point in this story was this, and another issue of concern:

The report also indicated that alcohol was a factor in the event.

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All too often. Usually at night, usually in the bedroom at home.

(Couldn’t resist)

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Well, perhaps keeping political discussion of this topic is in order. This lady is one of those decrying the right of self defense, yet she herself admits to keeping firearms in the house and she was messing around with her current squeeze’s duty gun it would appear. I agree with her. She should not be around firearms. She is a danger to her neighbors. No mention of where the bullet landed. I wonder if any neighbors have a strange hole in their house? I suspect if that were a neighbor of hers, she would be screaming for county jail time at a minimum and organizing demonstrations in front of the neighbor’s house. But no, blowing out your patio door is a mere bagatelle according to her mouthpiece.

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I the vid below, around the 4:50 time marker, they show a clip which seems to be a police officer who did not touch her firearm, but it went off. I have no relation to Sig Sauer brands, but I do often carry a large back pack in my mini adventures.

I noticed that the two main straps on my pack used to loosen or tighten, do have a double layered end piece to help grip onto when adjusting and or to prevent the strap from coming completely off the clip. I am wondering if one can accidentally drop the tip of the strap into the holster, it slowly moves down into the trigger guard, and onto the trigger. If you have a lighter trigger, once you pull that pack off - if the strap is on the trigger and hooks on, well - “you get my drift” now.

Being aware of surroundings and environment is no joke. I heard a story of a young man who died alone in the mountains, with no cause of death. He would sometimes shave with his big knife. One theory was he accidentally cut his neck.

The small things do count. Safety first.

I’m far from being any expert of course, goes without saying, but some items do not mix and some mixing of two normally innocent items create a danger. Then again, some things unfortunately can also malfunction.

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