What does the other guy Know?

We DO.

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I have joked about going to the problem areas and offering “FREE” firearms training. At the very least it should help with some of the innocent people getting caught in the mess just for living their lives. And the flip side maybe there will be a higher hit factor, I mean 50:1, or even 50:5 is unacceptable.

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It won’t help innocent people getting caught.

It isn’t that the violent criminals trying to murder each other don’t know that shooting towards other people might kill them, it’s that they don’t care about hitting bystanders.

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They may not have skill but, if they are breaking into you house and they know you are home, they have the willingness to use violence. They will do whatever and its clear that they will kill to get your stuff. Home Invasions are the most deadly form of violence. They are taking the risk that you may fight back but either dont care or they planned. And on the street the criminal has the advantage of surprise and experience of using violent actions. They may be career criminals who learned their trade in prison. Ask yourself if you are willing to get on their level.

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That’s one of the things I like to ask my beginner classes "Do you have the state of mind to rip eyes out, destroy testicles, bite fingers off… But, like you said, no matter what you know if you are not willing to destroy another human you need to consider other methods of self defense.

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If you are fighting fair then you already lost. Fighting dirty is not only acceptable but expected. So go ahead and eye gouge and crush balls. No referees in the street.

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It’s best to assume the bad guys know what they’re doing. So prepare as if you’re facing a bad guy with training.

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In general, I don’t think criminals engage in firearms training. The guy who’s trained better than you is most likely on your side.

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Most likely.

But they also likely know that, to an extent, proximity negates (or mitigates the effect of) skill, and action beats reaction…so you may need to be that much better jzut to break even

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From my personal knowledge of friends I had, back when :t_rex: :sauropod: :t_rex: :sauropod: :t_rex: roamed the Earth and the wheel was a square.

Most criminals don’t train or practice. Mainly due to lack of training gear, and the real chance of going to jail if caught, trying to, work on grip, sight picture, trigger control, laser, CIRT. So to the average criminal it’s a tool for intimidation or coercion.
With the obvious exception of a vet, who has fallen on bad times. They just don’t have the same amount of training.

That’s my pov from the cheap seats :popcorn:

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One of the best things about watching the UFC is you have have a fighter getting completely pummeled for two and half rounds, but he gets in one good shot in the third and turns the fight around. I am certain that there are better shooters out there than I am, but I’m pretty damn good and I work to make myself as good as I can be. I can’t control who will do something criminal to or around me or my family, but I can be as ready as possible and I can respond. I can’t control anything else, so I don’t bother with it.

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I’ve trained in hand to hand,edged weapons,firearms tactics in urban warfare…lol.Working out and training is all i did in the Army.I was thinking the whole time ill never need half of this…then came deployment.Then and only then did I realize that the fighting skills I acquired kept me alive.Since then I don’t train near as often except the physical training.I don’t think any encounter with a thug in the street can compare to the Taliban.At this point I don’t worry at all about what the other guy knows.Remain focused and remember your training you should come out on top.

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It’s true that you just don’t know how skilled the bad guy is but odds are that the work ethic and self discipline required to get skilled are attributes the typical thug lacks, which explains why they’re thugs in the first place.

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You should train to fight so you can get to a position to use your weapon. If needed of course.

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This is a gentle version. A lot of things are not shown or mentioned and, more as Mr. Mike ( 164 ) has mentioned.

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A thug on the street can be actual Taliban these days.

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Those guys don’t want to run into me now anymore than they did then.Im not racist,but I don’t like middle easterners.Will never trust or care for a one of them.

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Like my Dad used to say - prepare for the worst, hope for the best.

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I am sitting here writing this with my right knee just screaming at me and at least for now my left knee is quiet for a change. At my age and in my physical condition I am what the cops call a target victim. Knowing that I plan to cheat from the get-go. When out and about beside a 3 5/8" thumb stud knife which I have practiced with for long periods, including reading a book on non-lethal but disabling cuts and practicing slicing to those areas; I carry the Kimber pepper spray device which uses some propellant other than canned gas; I carry the KaBar cane which is a heavy aluminum cane for both assistance in walking and it is heavy enough to ring one’s bell and at home a firearm is my constant companion in my possession. In addition, I have made a point to assess the location and application of normal every day household items that can operate as defensive weapons. And I have determined that I will use maximum force in any confrontation that seems to be escalating. All that said, I am a peaceable guy and do my best to avoid any kind of situation where ego is at play. One of the “experts” I follow calls it the “monkey dance”. He maintains engaging in the monkey dance is stupid. He also maintains that other potentially violent situations are dangerous and it is important to be able to distinguish between a monkey dance and the truly dangerous situations and to take the initiative with the idea of ending it right then and there as violently as is required.

I certainly am not in any kind of physical condition to engage in any exchange of non-assisted violence. I studied judo for four years on Okinawa, Japan and here in the states and I know that size does matter. I studied it in those overseas locales before weight categories and know the history of why weight categories were instituted which I won’t discuss here. I met the Japanese judoka who was defeated by Anton Geesink. Didn’t compete with him. I wasn’t too lowly to be any kind of competition and too small. He wanted the biggest guys he could find and the most skilled. He was traveling through the U.S. visiting every dojo and challenging every judoka who had the skill lever or who was big enough to meet his criteria.

My sensei on Okinawa was an 8th degree, the highest you could go without engaging in judo politics at that time. And, because he was from Okinawa, he would never be promoted higher at that tme. I learned about the aura that highly trained in martial arts folk seem to have about themselves. He was about 5’8", 150 pounds and very quiet but one could feel something radiate from him that told you not to mess with him. Can’t describe it any better than that, but all the gaijin in the dojo remarked about it.

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I know what you mean and it’s not always from trained fighters. I’ve walk by men and women on the street and said to my self, “she/he knows!”. It just a feeling but it’s for real.

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