Slide release or rack the slide?

Thanks for the laugh! :rofl:

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This is one of reasons I do not own M&Ps. I love how they shoot. They fit hand perfectly. But lack of “release” option (in ambidextrous versions right side doesn’t want to move down easily) is NO GO for me.

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Every lever, widgit and gidgit on your pistol is there for a reason. If it can serve more than one reason you should use it.

If you cannot manipulate the “slide stop” as a “slide release”, You need to fix that.

If by slamming your magazine home you can make the slide jump and chamber, You need to fix that.

In a two handed grip thumbing the slide release / stop is a natural action following a mag change. The off hand grabs the mag from the pouch inserts it and reacquires the grip simultaneously thumbing the slide release both thumbs forward.

At what point in time is it useful to rack the slide and then re grip the pistol other than a FTFeed or FTFire?

Cheers,

Craig6

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Glock manual states either method is acceptable. They document the two options.

If the slide (1) is in the forward position, hold your GLOCK pistol with your firing hand and, while keeping your finger off of the trigger and outside of the trigger guard, grasp the rear of the slide at the serrations with your other hand and pull the slide fully back (Picture 7) and then release it, allowing it to return to the fully forward position (Picture 8).
or
If the slide is locked in the rearward position, either press the slide stop lever (27) down to release the slide and return it to the fully forward position or grasp the rear of the slide at the serrations with your other hand and pull the slide fully back and then release it, allowing it to return to the fully forward position.

The pistol is now loaded and ready to be fired by pulling the trigger

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Well at least Glock got their manual of arms correct. Nothing personal I just can’t shoot Glock’s without thinking about my grip and point every round. If you are more than 7’ away from me I will send the round over your head just because of grip angle and my training. Great gun, not for me.

Cheers,

Craig6

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I have a little trouble with the slide catch on my M17/P320. Short hands I suppose. As a result, I put in a fresh mag and “slingshot” the slide. With my hands at least, it’s easier and faster. The pistol is relativly new though. Maybe in the future it will be easier to manipulate the stop. We shall see.

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I can definitely understand that. It’s hard for me to miss something I never had. I’ve been using my M&Ps for a few years now, and I have no intention of giving them up. I’m comfortable and confident with them. BUT if I had started with a different brand and trained with a slide release, I would own different guns than I do now.

I often group polymer guns into one tuba-ware category, because they all seem relatively similar… but there are some subtle if not big differences between them all. It’s fascinating how different instructors/ manufacturers opinions differ.

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Yeah, that’s interesting.
From shoot-ability perspective M&P is on the same level as PPQ and VP9. I would even say the comfort is the same. But having fully operational slide release is big advantage.
My first handgun I’ve shot was SIG P210 TARGET with great big slide release… and I couldn’t understand how people can use pistol with non working slide release :slightly_smiling_face:
Nowadays when I don’t care about it anymore, I still try to own handguns WITH that working option :upside_down_face:
SIG P229 is exception :lying_face: but I just love this tool :star_struck:

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I looked this up last night. Obviously this is legal jargon to cover their tails. Really really stupid though.

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Hey Craig, why would say this is a problem. I’d think this could actually be really convenient and I would just roll with it.

I can’t really help here. My Glock owners manual only has one diagram.

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@Scoutbob If you can make the slide go home by slamming a mag it means your slide stop/release is worn and therefore not functioning correctly as in it will very soon start to NOT lock the slide open on an empty magazine which results in the dreaded “Click - No bang”. So now you tap, rack and re-engage with an empty pistol. Then you do a mag dump… How long did that take?

I would submit that if you get to the bottom of a magazine in a gun fight you are already in trouble and need every second you can get. You will do in real life what you train to, which is why we train of course.

Cheers,

Craig6

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Although I understand that their are benefits to not using the “slide release/stop,” why don’t manufacturers make it inaccessible altogether if they don’t want it used in that way?

@Scotty if they hid it you would need an empty magazine to lock your slide back.

Cheers,

Craig6

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There are firearms that have a bolt lock in a different area, which limits it’s use as a release (rifles come to mind). Wouldn’t it be beneficial to the manufacturer to design the slide stop similary if they didn’t want it used for reloads? Considering all of the tweaks that manufacturers do to safeties, trigger components, sights, rails, slide milling, grip texture, etc., wouldn’t it be easy enough to do if use as a slide release was an issue?

This is interesting. I will say I’m glad smith and Wesson made the slide stop this way. I can pick up just about any polymer gun and, at the very least, lock the slide back, if not completely disassemble it.

I am still confused because I can definitely release the slide on my M&P 2.0s. It’s not super easy, but it can be done. I’m wondering if this was intentional, but it is not mentioned in the Manuel.

I’ve been using this on my CZ for over 6 months. No wear on any parts at all.

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@Jerzees Using what?

Cheers,

Craig6

make the slide go home by slamming a mag

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I use the slide lock/release

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