As a Corrections Officer pencils scared the HE!! out of me. Every inmate had one and we even sharpened pencils for them.
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My concern there would be the improvised weapons you are listing seem like they would likely (I am not a lawyer and this is not legal advice or interpretation of the law) be considered lethal force. Pepper spray is not.
If hitting someone in the head with a bat is justified, or using an edged weapon is justified, that’s probably an appropriate time to use a firearm.
Pepper spray is for when that level of force is not justified. Generally.
But +1 for empty hand training, you’ll always have that with you.
Agree with what you are saying @Nathan57 but in this case I think the original poster was looking for alternatives to a firearm for home defense not because they really wanted a less lethal option but because the person mentioned wasn’t allowed to posses a firearm. So other potentially lethal options are worth considering as well.
Personally if someone just bashed in my door and my only options were to either grab a baseball bat or some pepper spray I’d likely reach for the bat.
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Ah yes, forgot which thread we were in. Good catch lol
In that case, the likely lethal force improvised weapons may be preferred where a firearm would otherwise be applicable, but still, for the not lethal force situations [pepper spray may be a good fit…forgot to finish my sentence first time…that there multitasking)
<–Not a lawyer, not legal advice
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And ROCKS, I should’ve remembered the ROCKS!!!
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A friend of mine, spent some time at college, before he was old enough to carry concealed and the college banned students from carrying firearms, he carried a percussion cap ball and powder revolver…
The school could not do anything as it was not a gun, and the at the time, the unarmed school security kept in contact with him as backup when they had questionable persons on campus they had to deal with…
The college was and still is, in not the best part of town and my friend, did what he needed too, to keep himself safe…
Im tempted to get into some similar cap and ball revolvers as it would be fun to learn and have not a gun revolvers…
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Incidentally, my relative who cannot own firearms does have simplisafe in their home. And ample deadbolt locks. Good system!!! Reasonable monitoring fees.
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When I was in college I legally carried my firearm on campus and to home football games (50-60k stadium capacity). Friends knew and the faculty member head of my student org knew. And I wasn’t the only one.
This was this century.
I did live off campus as this was not freshmen year (though it would have been legal to have in the dorms under state law as an 18 year old freshman had I got my license yet, probably still get kicked out if people found out as a freshman living in the dorms due to rules though)
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No kidding we sprayed I did at the unit and every one ran out so mad at me I had to buy donots for the next two weeks Bobby Jean 
Sorry for necro posting here; however, could you tell me whih lawyer you spoke to? I have gone through the entire list of Wisonsin lawyers on the USCCA website (I am a member), and have either recieved no response from most and less that thorough responses from one who didnt even bother to fully read my question and appeared to want nothing to do with me since I dont have a current case (Im the ex felon in question). I work as a process server in Milwaukee, and the half the neighborhoods I serve in the police wont even go. Im at my wits ends trying to figure out how I can legally defend myself and I cannot seem to get any answers. I caught my case when I was 16. I am now 39. I just want to be safe while doing my job. For any moderators, Im sorry if I broke any rules by necro posting, I thought that this would be better than starting a new thread. Thank you for time yall.
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@Robert1482 Welcome to our community, we are glad to have you with us. 
I believe that @Scott361 called [800-674-9779] and talked to a USCCA Rep.
They are always here and will always get an answer to your question, 24-7-365. 
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Thank you, I’ll call them later today.
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Your welcome… and we won’t slap your “pee pee” for “necroposting”. 
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Hello and welcome @AlteredCowboy
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Thank you kindly
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Composting the dead body.
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Hey, don’t laugh’ that is big business/money. 
And all the rage. 
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Sorry for the second necropost lol
When I search on Google, a bunch of sites say that pepperball guns are regulated as firearms in Wisconsin. is this a new occurrence? Or are these websites just incorrect, erring on the side of caution? Felon here, I qualify for my pardon now and don’t want to mess that up, but I’d like a less lethal option for my home.
Also does anyone know if it is purchased - there’s one on Amazon id like to get (no background check???) - and just use rubber balls in it at home, is that still considered a pepperball gun?
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