Not A New "Good Neighbor" Proposal

This deals with property defense - I’ve heard that one exists in Texas - to combat potential criminal trespass and home invasions. A hypothetical situation would involve you and a neighbor, or several neighbors, agreeing to a mutual home-and-property defense collaboration. This would be drawn up on paper with all participant’s signatures and notarized - a type of armed Neighborhood Watch. I heard of one Texan WITHOUT such an agreement, who chased after burglars on his neighbor’s property with a shotgun, and fired at them as they were running away - I wonder how his legal situation changed after the police arrived? FYI

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Another urban legend, or something with a news article to back it up?

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Look up “Man Cleared For Killing Neighbor’s Burglars - ABC News”. I was surprised that he was cleared after back-shooting these two cucarachas.

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The report mentions that both were Columbian illegals - and one of them had been deported in 1999 on cocaine charges.

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Never heard of such a thing. Personally I think it’s immoral to shoot someone if no one is in danger. I seriously doubt that’s legal here.

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It was reported on radio, too - I heard the 911 call. and the dispatcher told him to cease and desist, and stay in his home.

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Joe Horne was his name. Exemplary neighbour.

As far as written agreements, etc. Just think how it can be twisted and spun in court. No, of course not.

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Here ya ar pard. :us:

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THX for the link - yippee-yi-yo-kayah!

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:flushed: Um

If that truly was a ‘real’ article I wasted thirty seconds of my life glancing at…

He’s far from exemplary. Matter of fact , I think he’s the exact opposite and would hope and pray none of us have neighbors like that criminal!

That journal article was not in depth. Sketchy. Maybe I missed something. But I don’t think so.

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You are entitled to your opinion, but the Grand Jury disagreed with you. Clearly, he defended stuff, not life. We can debate how lucky he was not to be in prison, or morality of his act. What I recall about the incident, the crooks that did not survive had hit his neighbourhood many times. You know how much of a violation a burglary is to homeowners, and these guys were abusing people there over and over. Eventually, someone lashed out against them.

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Did you notice how much lament ABC gave in 2009 about Castle Doctrine? Imagine someone time travels back to 2009 and shows them the law FL just enacted about mobs blocking traffic, or how many states now have Constitutional Carry. They’d have a hissing fit :slight_smile:

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In 2009 I wasn’t paying much attention about all of this stuff. Transgenderism is what woke me up. I predicted all of this. My wife and kids constantly made gun of me. I was correct.

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That’s what makes the story even more complicated. The old saying and you may have heard before is a grand jury would indite a ham sandwich!

But hey! It was Texas!

If you have to ask ‘911’ may you shoot someone then I’m thinking that’s a negative. However, I’m not trying to act all wise or knowing, sir. My comments are always intended to be taken kindly.

Forgive me if Im unable to throw a sensitive tone in my writing. I truly never mean to offend.

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The bottom line is : THIS WILL BE OR SHOULD BE A WAKE UP CALL FOR CRIMINALS. Two wrongs don’t make a right but, at least one wrong is gone and, can’t do anymore wrong. NEED MORE WAKE UP CALLS.
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Haven’t heard that one in a while. One of my CSMs used to say “there ain’t no right way to do wrong”.

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Back to the OP, yes, you can draw up whatever document you wish with your neighbors but you’d still have to act within the law.

I’d recommend more of a neighborhood watch group that notifies LE of a witnessed(ing) illegal activity. Lethal force would/could be in play if you feared for your life or the life of another or great bodily harm to yourself or to another.

Would you have folks patrol? Would you be in groups? Have you had some problems in your neighborhood?

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My proposal was inspired by the Joe Horne incident - even though these two cucarachas were career punks, self-defense vanished once they began to run. Horne never had even a VERBAL agreement with his neighbor. My proposal would include Neighborhood Watch functions, and operate within current laws - Horne’s action at the very least was borderline vigilante behavior. Stay safe, but stay LEGAL.

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@KillJoy >> in this case I think it was overkill. I do think that if the bad people
( criminals ) know there will be hell to pay there would be a lot less crime if Swift justice was served.
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