Home invasion i Live in Minnesota

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  1. I’m sitting on the couch my grandkids are playing and someone kicks my door in and enter my home. do I have the right to shoot them even if I don’t see a weapon?

  2. I’m in my attach garage watching tv but the door to my garage is not connected to my house to enter my house. is it still follow as the castle doctrine or no ? Do I have the right to protect my self in there even if I don’t see a weapon?

  3. My bedroom is in basement and my adult disabled kids are upstairs do I have the right to come up stairs and shoot the burglar that just kicked in my door even if I don’t see a weapon??

Reason I keep asking even if I don’t see a weapon is when someone enters your property with force you are not looking for a weapon you are looking to protect your love ones I know there is a few questions but I don’t know where to ask or where to begin thought of asking a cop but there not lawyers

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Start here then post

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The question of whether a detached garage is considered curtilage for purposes of coverage by the state’s castle doctrine differs from state to state. You have to research both the statute and precedential case law (that is opinions of state appellate and supreme courts) in your state to answer this part of your question.

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You appear to correctly understand that the castle doctrine does not automatically justify use of deadly force simply because a stranger enters your home without invitation. Good work on that part.

The key to answering this question is not whether you see a weapon, but whether you can convince (in order) responding cops, prosectors, and possibly a jury, that in the totality of your circumstances at the time a reasonable person would have been in fear of death or serious physical harm.

Finally, thinking in terms of “a right to shoot” is dangerous. A better way to look at the situation is among the three possible questions of can I shoot, or should I shoot, or must I shoot decide based on must I shoot to protect myself (or others) from deadly harm? Credit to John Correia and Active Self Protection for teaching this approach.

Using the right to shoot concept is too close to the can I shoot question.

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Welcome to the community. What @Craig_AR replied is spot on. I am a retired carpenter, I can help you rebuild your front door it you like.:cry: G-d bless

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From Here… Utah Code Section 76-2-402

Effective 5/4/2022
76-2-402. Force in defense of person – Forcible felony defined.

(1) As used in this section:
(a) “Forcible felony” means aggravated assault, mayhem, aggravated murder, murder, manslaughter, kidnapping and aggravated kidnapping, rape, forcible sodomy, rape of a child, object rape, object rape of a child, sexual abuse of a child, aggravated sexual abuse of a child, and aggravated sexual assault as defined in Chapter 5, Offenses Against the Individual, and arson, robbery, and burglary as defined in Chapter 6, Offenses Against Property.
(b) “Forcible felony” includes any other felony offense that involves the use of force or violence against an individual that poses a substantial danger of death or serious bodily injury.
(c) “Forcible felony” does not include burglary of a vehicle, as defined in Section 76-6-204, unless the vehicle is occupied at the time unlawful entry is made or attempted.
(2)
(a) An individual is justified in threatening or using force against another individual when and to the extent that the individual reasonably believes that force or a threat of force is necessary to defend the individual or another individual against the imminent use of unlawful force.
(b) An individual is justified in using force intended or likely to cause death or serious bodily injury only if the individual reasonably believes that force is necessary to prevent death or serious bodily injury to the individual or another individual as a result of imminent use of unlawful force, or to prevent the commission of a forcible felony.
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I’m glad to see home invasion and home defense being discussed. It’s common in the concealed carry community to discuss armed confrontation “in the street” but the reality is many of us spend the majority of our time in our homes. On the street, we can choose not to go to unsafe situations or locations, we can hopefully retreat if we see a threat, and we can try to draw attention if danger comes at us. In other words, we have options and alternatives to armed confrontation.

Home invasion isn’t necessarily like that. If you’re sitting in your living room and someone bashes in your front door, there’s probably no where to retreat to, there are no witnesses to help deter a bad guy, there are no cops, there’s nothing but you and the person who just violently smashed into your space, and has already committed a major felony by that action alone.

The situation with Savannah Guthrie’s mom is horrifying. Imagine being an elderly woman, just hanging at home, when suddenly very bad people enter your home with the sole intent of doing you great harm. That poor lady lived a full life and it ends up this way? No one, ever, should have to face that kind of horror. I can’t imagine the terror she felt, and is still feeling, if, hopefully, she’s still alive.

Too many people, even people I know well who wouldn’t leave the house unarmed, hang out at home with their “carry” gun locked away in a safe or, at minimum, in some dresser drawer, which is too far from reach when the front door suddenly blasts open and two or three thugs are there planning on doing whatever they want, to whomever they want, in your home.

Be safe. Carry at home. Get your loved ones, your elderly parents, your grown kids, everyone you care about, to keep some kind of arms close at hand at home. I think I remember JD Vance saying they found about 15 loaded guns around his mom’s house when she passed. No one was going to abuse and harm that lady. Be like her.

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We had a guy testing keys in our door, must have had 5-6 keys. I looked out of the peep hole (yep I’m old school) and then opened the door, gun in hand. He damn near crapped a load and ran for the stairs. The security guard saw him run by in the lobby and called the cops. Not a word was said to me about it…

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It’s in Minnesota. Just so we’re clear, ICE raids are NOT home invasions.

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There are two ways someone will enter a house. One is by kicking the door down to which the person inside knows they are coming in and their attempt is to be considered to be violent. The other way is quietly to not disturb anyone and to be covert. This is the one that will catch many people in their home by surprise. If the person is found in the house it will be a surprise encounter and many questions will arise such as how the heck did they get in? Who are they? Are they actually a threat? If you have your house set up to prevent someone from just casually getting in then it would be less of a possibility.

As textbook scenarios go, nothing ever has the Ts crossed and the I’s dotted. There are too many variables to the situation. Making your home security so that there are no surprises is the first and most important step. As far as I am concerned, if you are being aggressive to get into my house, I will return the aggression multiplied. Their aggression as far as I am concerned is showing their intent.

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Or desperation. A serial killer will try to dominate you while a robber just wants fast cash.

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According to a 2022 study referenced in the most recent Concealed Carry Magazine edition (p86) the top locations where firearms are used in self defense are homes and properties.

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I hope that she is returned home safely, it’s an awful situation. I can’t imagine the torment that the family is going through, or that she is going through if she is still alive. Tragic either way.

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Welcome Robert1788 .

.02 cents. Maybe:

Check your local listings, create and build barriers between your side walk, fence, gate, door, recordable cameras, lighting, alarms, crude non electric bells, dogs.

Make it so you deter or slow down the threat, a court may then see your assailant as very determined.

Build an indoor connection between your house to the garage, thereby making your garage “more” a part of your house; post your street address on the garage (clearly visible), make the outside and inside of your garage look “homey" and comfortable. It’s your home, you and your family spend time there, take naps there, take shelter there.

Reinforce, reinforce.

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