Dont know if this is true but his aunt said he struggled with mental issues if true then his dad should have made sure he had no access to the weapons
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As a parent, you have a responsibility to keep your kids safe. Inform them, educate them, make sure they know there are weapons in the house, how to use them, etc. BUT, as an owner of said weapons you have a primary responsibility to keep those weapons secure. This father failed on both fronts. I always trusted my kids, I showed them the firearms, I let them shoot them when we went shooting together, BUT, my weapons have always been secured because you can never know what is gonna happen when you’re not around. Sucks, I feel terrible for this dad, as well as the Crumbleys but it all boils down to a failure to secure weapons.
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Thing is, father BOUGHT the AR-15 for his (then 13 year old) son, AFTER he came on FBI radar for making threats about shooting up schools.
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That is why I (personally) am ok with the Father being charged. Because of the circumstances.
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Could be some mental illness on the parent’s end, also.
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What’s that about the apple not falling too far from the tree?
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^THERE IT IS!!! Ding Ding Ding Ding!^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^6
Two problems here (@ least)
** Your kid is going through some ‘Rough patches’—(to put it mildly)
Acrimonious Parental Divorce, multiple moves/relocation, Embarrassment of Mommy Dearest getting pinched w/ drugs and acting incredibly stoopid! School bullying, possible Mental issues…Yes Daddy why NOT buy that kid an AR ? Sure? Are you duckin’ Nutz yourself?
WTF! was he thinking???
Secondly: If this was a real shooting by this (14) year old—WHERE’S THE DRUG TEST RESULTS?
What was REALLY in this kids system? Just like the (20) year old in Butler, PA?
These shoots smell really BAD to me. (as I affix my TFH!)
THE TIMING OF THESE STINK and don’t pass the BS test.
Msn.com today reports the RED FLAG LAWS have ‘EXPLODED’ in MAINE since the shooting by the known unbalanced Veteran (where by the authorities KNEW of his instability and chose to do nothing!)
SOMEBODY WANTS all this sh!t to happen.
EDIT: I posted a Meme recently: “Common Sense isn’t a flower in everyone’s Garden”
I don’t have children. IF I DID and the kid was having problems, the LEAST I’d do if I believed I should still keep firearms in the house is make them inaccessible to that child.
A SAFE is the most effective and Child Proof!
Mi dos centavos!
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I see no reason it can’t be both of them.
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And now David a Highway Shooting in Kentucky, Interstate 75 closed @ Exit 49…Hmmmmmmmm anybody else smell somethin’ fishy?
No Debate ?
No Election?
.gov over reaction?
Hey look! A BLACK SWAN!
DANGER CLOSE FOLK’S!
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More dropped balls and missed chances. 
Read more here. 
The mother of the suspected Apalachee High School gunman told family members that she called the school on the morning of the shooting and warned a counselor about an “extreme emergency” involving her 14-year-old son, according to text messages obtained by The Washington Post and an interview with a family member.
That account is supported by a call log from the family’s shared phone plan, which shows a 10-minute call from the mother’s phone to the school starting at 9:50 a.m. — about a half-hour before witnesses have said the gunman opened fire.
“I was the one that notified the school counselor at the high school,” Marcee Gray texted her sister following the shooting on Sept. 4, according to a screenshot of the exchange. “I told them it was an extreme emergency and for them to go immediately and find [my son] to check on him.”
A counselor told Gray during the call that her son had been talking about a school shooting that morning, according to Gray’s sister, Annie Brown, who described family discussions of the events to The Post.
Around the same time, a school administrator went to the son’s math classroom, according to Lyela Sayarath, a student in the class. Sayarath said there seemed to be confusion involving another student in the class with a name similar to that of Gray’s son. Neither student was in the room, and the official left with a backpack belonging to the similarly named student, she said. The shooting began minutes later.
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Incredible Brother, just incredible.
This is almost as awful as learning the Airline Trainers in Florida
taught the ‘middle eastern men’ how to fly the airliners…
When these clients said ‘No no no, we don’t need to know how to land’…
(Alarm bells anywhere?)
Buelar ?
Buelar?
Buelar?
B—oh nevamind!
This is EXACTLY why I changed my name from Oswald to Clinton!
(They get away with everything!)
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@Keith224 Welcome to the community!
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Shakes fist angrily at the sky, in (Shakespearean rage).
My 
does not like carbonated beverages being shot out of it just because you make a funny 
. That ■■■■ burns, and now my nose and my sides hurt from laughter. Grumble Grumble
@Don102 I would appreciate a warning that you are about to say something funny. You and @leo23 keep posting funny things while I am enjoying a nice cold non-alcoholic cold beverage and reading up on my favorite forum (in the interests of full disclosure, it is also my least liked forum, since it is the only forum I engage in) 
So don’t go getting a big head @USCCA
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Alas, Poor Zavier, I knew him well! … or not! 
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From Daisy Luther (AKA the Organic Prepper) email this morning. I don’t know all of her sources on this, but it matches other stuff posted and read about.
If what she says is right, this was a failure of the entire system.
I’m getting tired of the questions about school security. This is way bigger than a school security issue. This is a systemic failure of society.
“I’m sure everyone has heard about the school shooting that took place in Georgia this week.
For several reasons, this one hits me differently than previous events. Yes, they’re all horrible, but this was so preventable. While obviously, the majority of my sympathy goes toward the victims, I can’t help but see the boy who did the shooting, Colt Gray, as a victim too.
Maybe some of my opinions today will be unpopular, or maybe you feel the same.
From the information that is coming out, everyone possible had failed Colt. There are stories of him being abused by his parents, being locked out all night by his addict mother, being terribly mistreated by his mom and dad, and watching them behave violently toward each other.
Neighbors repeatedly called Child Protective Services. CPS did nothing to protect him. He and his siblings were never removed from that unstable home.
His aunt reports he had “begged” for mental health help for years and only just finally got to start seeing a school counselor.
His school attendance was sporadic. His father reports he was bullied, and the kids said he was gay. So far, there’s no real evidence that he was or was not gay.
Authorities visited him after the FBI got a credible tip that he was making school shooting threats online nearly two years ago. His father got him a gun for Christmas AFTER this visit from authorities. Why on earth would he have given his son the tools to carry this out when he had been warned?
On the day of the shooting, Colt had met with the counselor and made “disturbing” comments about school shootings. Yet he was allowed to go to class anyway. He had called and apologized to his mother, who frantically called the school and warned them of an “extreme emergency” situation. He still was not pulled from class.
So many mistakes were made. There were so many chances for someone - anyone - to step in before this tragedy occurred.
It didn’t have to happen. I feel like Colt was a victim long before he ever made victims of his own.
What he did was incredibly wrong, and it cannot be undone. He took innocent lives. But I don’t think trying him as an adult and putting a 14-year-old boy who was previously abused in with a bunch of hardened criminals is the answer. I don’t have the answers.
I hope that if anything comes from this, it is that more attention is paid to these warning signs and that more intercessions occur before it gets to this point.
We talk about mental health problems being the issue instead of guns, but why aren’t we addressing those problems? Why are we letting kids fall through the cracks of an imperfect system?
This shooting could have been stopped a dozen times before it started, right up to the very same day.
My heart goes out to everyone involved - the kids who lost their innocence watching a violent crime, the families of those who lost their lives, the people fighting for their lives in the hospital, and even Colt Gray, who nobody listened to when he cried out for help.
Repeatedly.
For years.”
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Yes the parent ( if you want to call them a parent) has to take the blame for the actions of not being a parent. We all know when it comes to owning a gun this a big deal. And every time a shooting happens in our nation we all all blamed for the actions of some crazy person, teenager or some mental stupid person what uses a A.R. RIFFLE to kill people. And you know its that weapons fault not the nut job that pulls the trigger. So now they want to take away the A R 's from us that had nothing to do with this. About time they started holding parents for their actions as well.
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