Dilemma

Volunteer to help with the baseball team and then carry a bat to school every day?

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Kevin McAllister was our inspiration when we came up with the plan :smiley:

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I would, but all sports games and practices happen on my shift

There goes my idea for coaching the rifle team.

@Kent ā€¦ Wrong threadā€¦ :wink:

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Democratic socialistā€™s actions just donā€™t make sense from the perspective of freedom and good government of, by, and for the people. Their actions and agenda do make complete sense in order to subject us to the socialist plans they have. Beyond seeing us as sheep to be fleeced 4/14, they donā€™t care about the public at all. Their main concern with firearm laws, is to prevent rebellion and keep us under their thumbs. They donā€™t even trust the troops they sent to the capitol and had them be ā€œvettedā€ by the FBI (figuratively deloused).
ā€œgun controlā€ is people control

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We seem to be veering off topic hereā€¦ please adjust your course to stay on target.

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Yeah please. Iā€™m not trying to start an ā€œoverthrow the governmentā€ debate. I just want to get home in one piece at night.

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Look. Under the circumstances, you did GREAT. Now figure out how to lose the fear you described, because it is just an illusion. Concern and alert = YES! Fear = never. Again I say: YOU DID TERRIFIC.

You now have real world experience with your family security plan. Nobody got hurt. WINNER!

Nowā€¦after action review.

  1. What went right?
  2. What went wrong?
  3. Address what went wrong. Sometimes, stuff just goes wrong. BUTā€¦try to eliminate that.
  4. Donā€™t forget to tell your family how proud you are of them.
  5. You arenā€™t going to change the school district, your community, etc. anytime soon. Thatā€™s not where you focus your attention. Accept what IS. Work within and around what you canā€™t change.
  6. FYI, I have been in assaulted with guns twice when I didnā€™t have a gun. Once I got shot in the leg. The other time I talked and waited my way out of a hostage situation. He eventually passed out. I took the 357 mag revolver, and unlocked the door to let by police buddies waiting outside in to arrest him. Then I had a stiff drink or 3 and did some serious praying to thank God for his protection. Moral: being armed is WAY better, but you and your family can likely survive not being armed if you HAVE TO. Use what youā€™ve got. You are NEVER out of the fight! KEEP YOUR WITS and remain calm.

Again ā€“ congratulations! This was a huge success.

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Thank you for your advice and support. Iā€™m a Marine combat vet of Iraqi Freedom. So Iā€™m well versed in weapons of opportunity, and counter surveillance, terrorism awareness. And I have read Gavin DeBeckerā€™s ā€œThe Gift of Fearā€ several times. So I am well aware of the difference between warranted fear (survival instinct) and unwarranted fear (paranoia).

I guess my biggest gripe is I donā€™t like not being prepared for every possible contingency, on top of not being able to have access to ALL my tools. I always keep a few things handy so I can at least maintain the element of surprise. It is just scary knowing that these types of people live so close to me and can strike at anytime. These five in particular were even worse. They were actually targeting a specific person but never positively identified anyone they engaged as their actual target (according to the police).

I know the problem isnā€™t law here. The problem is impulse, emotion, and non-guidance. I know I canā€™t fix those problems. I just want to make sure that Iā€™m doing everything I can to make sure the neither my family, nor I, pay the price because somebody else didnā€™t do their job as parents.

Iā€™m sorry that you went through the situations that you did. But Iā€™m glad you survived, and am thankful you were willing to share.

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WOW.the law there needs to be changed. you did the next best thing. GOD BLESS YOU BROTHER. charlie here, army retired, vietnam era 67-68ā€¦

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Thank you for your service.

I think that is a stupid law. As long as you have a gun safe in the car so no one can get it I think you should be able to have a gun on school grounds. I also think that if you are trained to carry the school would be safer if you had you gun in the classroom with you. The no gun zones are a sign for the armed crooks to know law abiding citizens are unarmed and can be robbed easier.

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I totally agree.

It sounds to me that you and your family planned ahead and then did everything that you could legally do. Have you or your wife taken any defensive handgun shooting classes? I noticed that you served in the military, and thank you for that, but USCCAā€™s Defense Shooting Fundamentals Level 1 & 2 classes are a good way to refine skills you have or in your wifeā€™s case learn new skills.

In terms of your school situation, Iā€™ve seen several good suggestions, and I would add that I carry a tactical pen and flashlight or a expandable steel baton when Iā€™m in a gun free zone setting.

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I would love for her and I to take a defensive shooting class. The problem of course, being a low income middle class family, is time and funds. I say time because work schedules conflict and there is NEVER a day where we could go together. Hell, it seems like we each have to take a vacation day just to go grocery shopping :stuck_out_tongue: .

Anyway, for the time being itā€™s just what I can convey to her through my training/memory, which is effectiveā€¦but RUSTY at best.

Get in touch with Klint Macro at Triggerpressersunion.com. He lives in the Pittsburgh area, but teaches all over the state/country. Klint is a USCCA & NRA Instructor and Training Counselor. Heā€™s an excellent instructor, and given your constraints, Iā€™m sure he would work something out for you. He was one of my instructors when I took the DSF Level 1 Instructors class in 2019. Iā€™ve been lucky enough to work with him once since then.
Given your military background you might want to consider becoming an instructor for some extra income.

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Thanks for his info. I have thought about becoming an instructor myself. Of course the first question that goes through my head is ā€œhow much is this going to cost me?ā€ I know it would be a great investment, and an opportunity for extra income. But also with the pandemic, and social distancing right now, I also think it might be prudent to wait until things settle down a bitā€¦if they do.

I would take the DSF L1 course before deciding on the instructor path, because the instructor course is 3 days of range work and I think itā€™s around $800.00.
There is a USCCA instructor course for Home Defense and Concealed Carry that runs about $400.00. Most instructors charge about $100.00 per student, so it wouldnā€™t take but a class or two to recoup your investment. In SC where I live it also meets the states requirements to teach CWP classes.

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Iā€™ll definitely look into it further.