Deportation - Majority seems to disagree with the Media

All they would need to fund this is to close the loop holes on wall street. They pay their fair share … They will still be rich and make a money .. Just paying their fair share .. This would create jobs for people to build and run the places… This would clean up the streets.. Also be the human thing to do …
These people are not takers … That would be the people on wall street… They believe they do not have to pay taxes like all of us … The people we are helping doing this have mental defects … Also creating jobs for nurses those are good paying jobs… This is what is possible if everyone pays their fair share …
Bosanek pays a tax rate of 35.8 percent of income, while Buffett pays a rate at 17.4 percent.
“I just feel like an average citizen. I represent the average citizen who needs a voice,” said Bosanek. “Everybody in our office is paying a higher tax rate than Warren.”

Again this is not about asking them to pay more … Just the same as the rest of us …

It is a federal crime per 8 USC 1324a

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So why is no one being charged for this? Why is the Federal Government rolling into work places, pulling out hundreds of illegals and we are not seeing the business owners frog marched out with them? Why are the Feds screwing us? You want to get angry, get angry at the employers and the Government for covering for them.

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Already angry at the swamp. Totally agree we should go after these companies that hire illegals.

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Also agree. Any employer who knowingly hires an illegal(s) should be held accountable.

I also believe that anyone who aids and abets an illegal(s) in any manner should be held accountable. This includes cities and states.

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Here is the thing, the knowingly argument is crap, there are enough tools to circumvent any employer from unknowingly hiring an illegal. The knowingly is a complete copout, employers need to do their do diligence and guarantee a future employee is legally able to work in the US before they give them a job. If you want to operate a business in the US be a Patriot and only hire people who are eligible to work, or go to Prison, lose your business and lose all your assets.

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How do we convince them, Sir? Playing “Keyboard Commando” here, rattling our sabers at each other doesn’t work. Doing that only brings us down to the level of the liberal left who will raise their fist and scream “THERE AUGHT TO BE A LAW!!!”

Well, there is a law…

Criminal Resource Manual

CRM 1500-1999

1908. Unlawful Employment Of Aliens – Criminal Penalties

Title 8 U.S.C. § 1324a(a)(1)(A) makes it unlawful for any person or other entity to hire, recruit, or refer for a fee, for employment in the United States an alien knowing the alien is an unauthorized alien, as defined in subsection 1324a(h)(3).

Subsection 1324a(2) makes it unlawful for any person or entity, after hiring an alien for employment, to continue to employ the alien in the United States knowing the alien is or has become an unauthorized alien with respect to such employment.

Subsection 1324a(f) provides that any person or entity that engages in a “pattern or practice” of violations of subsection (a)(1)(A) or (a)(2) shall be fined not more than $3000 for each unauthorized alien with respect to whom such a violation occurs, imprisoned for not more than six months for the entire pattern or practice, or both. The legislative history indicates that “a pattern or practice” of violations is to be given a commonsense rather than overly technical meaning, and must evidence regular, repeated and intentional activities, but does not include isolated, sporadic or accidental acts. H.R.Rep. No. 99-682, Part 3, 99th Cong., 2d Sess. (1986), p. 59. See 8 C.F.R. § 274a.1(k).A scheme for civil enforcement of the requirements of § 1324a through injunctions and monetary penalties is set forth in § 1324a(e) and § 1324a(f)(2).

In addition, 18 U.S.C. § 1546(b) makes it a felony offense to use a false identification document, or misuse a real one, for the purpose of satisfying the employment verification provisions in 8 U.S.C. § 1324a(b).

Getting someone to actually act on this law is only one issue. The punishment per crime is ridiculously low (3000 fine per person hired and/or 6 months in jail). Do you take VISA? 6 months in a Federal Pen is a vacation compared to what some of us experience on the daily.

Then there is this clause: “The legislative history indicates that “a pattern or practice” of violations is to be given a commonsense rather than overly technical meaning, and must evidence regular, repeated and intentional activities, but does not include isolated, sporadic or accidental acts.” This will let them off the hook. They get a slick lawyer and it all gets washed away.

I have the same question I posted to P.Z. above. How do we convince them, Sir?

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But then….

I do believe you already know that certain businesses would rather have the illegal workers,… because what are they gonna do? Call OSHA?

That’s exactly why TDA took over the apartment complex’s in Aurora, they were largely housing immigrants that could be bullied and extorted…. What are they gonna do? Call the cops and get deported themselves?

Same for human trafficking….

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Will_B I concur.

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Again, I agree, employers should do their due diligence to prevent hiring an illegal. I never said otherwise.

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I know the farm side and well they pick everything .. If you ever been to a meat packing plant good luck finding someone who speak english…
@BruceE They always pick on the weak or poor … Easy targets can’t afford to fight back… Most notably when was the last time you seen someone in a Bens or Rolls pulled over or any other expensive vehicle …
Just like DOGE they are going after the weak … Not the oil companies that your tax dollars support or wall street or heaven forbid planes we do not need… We need drone ships and drones …

By not falling for their crap, the politicians in Washington know that by not solving issues is how they get people to the polls every 4 years. If they solve immigration, those upset over immigration are not showing up. We have two parties that clutch their pearls over issues they have no desire to solve because it keeps the little people fighting amongst themselves while they keep getting re-elected and wealthier by promising to solve issues that are still there every 4 years. I am not going to pay more taxes to solve problems they have no intention on fixing. Rounding up illegals every four years is not going to stop them from coming, sending employers to prison will do that.

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In Oregon they would because their status is protected, in Texas not so much. Oh, man now it makes so much sense on why Texas and Florida provide zero protection, those State Governments are in on the charade.

Poor analogy. Zero evidence.

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Are you trying to make the case that an illegal in Oregon would call the authorities on their own employer for hiring them because they’re “protected”?

It also sounds like you’re stating that non-sanctuary states, FL & TX specifically, are non-sanctuary so that they can somehow profit off of illegal immigration.

Am I reading this correctly?

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Absolutely and they have due to dangerous job environments that are not meeting OSHA standards. Oregon is little different than Texas, the state believes in water breaks during hot days. And yes, I believe Texas and Florida intentionally let their employers hire illegals knowing that those people will keep their heads down and not complain about inhumane working conditions that effect everyone not just the illegals.

Department of Health and Human Services (HHS)
Environmental Protection Agency
Department of Education
Bureau of International Labor Affairs
United States Postal Service
Just to name a few that are unable to fight back… Not to mention everyone losing their jobs … These are the weak …
These are the one’s where the real waste is occurring … They get more of our tax dollars then any of the aforementioned …
Oil companies
Pharmaceutical companies
Tax loopholes for wall street and the rich..
Military spending on stuff we do not need …
To name just a few … So tell my why they are not going after this spending. I mean WASTE …
Instead lets go after this … Sixty-nine programs that combat child labor and forced labor abroad…The cuts threaten "to unravel decades of progress in combating forced and child labor, human trafficking and exploitation around the world…
Lets just give it to companies making BILLIONS in profits every year… Piss on those kids…

The country was on life support when the boss took office. Now he has to clean up all the dem’s never ending sh!t while simultaneously trying to rescue us fiscally and putting us back in place as the strong leader of the free world.

You can’t help the world if you can’t even help yourself. Peace through strength. Charity starts at home.

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The Florida economy depends on workers in the agriculture, service and hospitality sectors. The Migration Policy Institute reports there is an estimated 455,000 undocumented immigrants working in Florida, who are currently employed.
immigrants represented 40% of the construction workforce, and undocumented immigrants represented 23.3% of all employed workers in the industry in Texas.. Agriculture also relies heavily on undocumented labor… Other Industries like Food service, meatpacking, and landscaping are also industries that rely on undocumented labor

Ok the Truth…
In 2024, the United States had the largest economy in the world, with a gross domestic product of just under 29 trillion U.S. dollars . China had the second largest economy, at around 18.5 trillion U.S. dollars.

So tell me when does the Charity start… The U.S. is like a child with money… Buys stupid shiat gives money to the wrong people… Doesn’t save for the future …
Every party has had a hand in our economy.. Do you honestly think it is just the dems ?
Bush started a war he didn’t pay for… how does that help us 20 year war not one thought of how to pay for it …