Should you play it safe and NOT offer to show it to them, even if you feel your case is cut and dry? Can police view it and use it as evidence without your permission?
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Keep flow of information at a minimum, just as written on the back of the USCCA card.
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ALWAYS wait for your attorney. In general, nothing you say to the police can help you; it can only hurt you.
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Iâm not a lawyer but, Iâm sure that it can be used as evidence whether you give permission or not.
If Iâm in a good enough spot to be worried about my dash camera(s)â footage, my main concern will be that the footage survives and is recovered to be used in any proceedings that may result.
I wouldnât want, like, nobody to think about it, and a friend or family to end up driving the vehicle away/home at some point, and the car being on so long it overwrites the footage before someone realizes to get it.
Or LE gets it and then somehow someway not all of it is available or seen later, or defense doesnât get it in time to review, or whatever weirdness.
I doubt I will show anybody anything.
I canât say if I would point out that it exists, to whom, or when/how
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Better make sure that your attorney is the first to see and make a copy of that footage available to the police.
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The police arenât your friends, do not give them anything voluntarily. If you have time, upload video to a cloud service and remove the memory card if you can and conceal it. Depending on the city involved, your dashcam may be removed or rendered usless, denying you exculpitory evidence. Donât mention it to the police, let your lawyer do it.
The cops are there to aid the prosecution.
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Thatâs another concern I didnât mention, but if the cops arenât on your side, whatâs to stop them from seizing the camera plainly visible on your windshield, or even just the SD card and using it against you or simply claiming it never existed to begin with? I guess youâd better have the presence of mind and enough time to remove the card and stash it in a preplanned location.
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IMO, if the footage is used against you, the problem lies with what you are doing/did.
Remove the card and stash it in a pre planned location? So stop recording before the police get there? Iâd rather have the recording keep going.
What kind of a pre planned location are you thinking?
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My Belief System is:
**NO Dash Cam
** NO Alexa
**Cover Laptop Cam w/ Blocker.
**NO Ring Door Bell
**NO TALKY TALKY to the Man!
Shoot, Make sure Threat is Neutralized.
Head on a swivel for bad guyâs little butt-buddies.
Check for Holes and Leakage, Apply IFAX if necessary
SURVIVE, CALL 911, Say whatâs on the back of card and STFU!
Call Lawyer (Speed Dial) Call USCCA report Incident
Get the ball rolling in your DEFENSE!
Oh, and did I say SHUT THE F**K UP?
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My belief system is: I trust myself and my decision making and actions more than I trust my attacker(s) or the media, so I want video documentation of what happens in the public sphere wherever possible
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Whatâs Murphys law say? 
If it can happen , It will happen and at the worst possible time!
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Don 102 now you know thatâs in tirely. Impossible for me. So by the time I shut up they can send me my magazines to the nearest prison. KAZ I like the pictures . Love ya SIR hereâs ya a root beer .
SIR . The bad guy. He wonât be saying anything. So look at the . Only side they are going to hear about how I had to do all that Debbie ann made me and I am very tired and can I get a blankey . Love Bobby Jean . Haw haw have a great day brother Gunners. Woohoo 
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What is the script on the back of the card? Can you post?
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Call 911
Explain: I was attacked, feared for my life, and had to defend myself.
Request: Please send both police and an ambulance to this location -
Call the critical response team at #phoe number (any number for âUSCCAâ that goes to Delta Defense will work). Press * to go straight to the Critical Response line
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When Responding Officers Arrive
Comply: Follow all police instructions
Medical: Request medical attention, if necessary
Silence: "I will cooperate 100% but first I need my attorney. (Do not talk further without your lawyer present)
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OK, good. Thatâs what Iâve seen other lawyers recommend, with the important and only statement you make being that you feared for your life and defended yourself - clearly establish that you are the victim, not the aggressor.
Optionally you may choose to provide limited, brief, âlow resolutionâ tidbits likeâŠhe had a dark shirt and went that way, they got into a white truck, he dropped that point to item on the ground, they point to witnesses may have seen. When in doubt, less is more and other than whatâs on the card none is always an option
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??? Might want to fix that.
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lol good call
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