I definitely would not recommend HP’s made for self defense as they are intended to prevent over penetration.
A heavy jacketed hunting JHP is a completely different story though.
In a bear defense situation I’d want the maximum combination of penetration and internal damage so I want a deep penetrating heavy jacketed heavy for caliber bullet pushed at max velocity for max energy transfer
The best I’ve seen were made back in the eighties, a JPP or hard cast lead bullet with a tungsten penetration in the HP cavity. Unfortunately when the ban on “cop killer bullets” went into effect that was the end of them.
Interesting note. We don’t have many bears in my immediate area, but a friend about 10 miles to my north has them virtually living off his bird feeders and pet food. He tries everything tto protect his property and pets and to persuade the bears to move on. Last year he had a mama with two cubs. A nurturing sow can be dangerous.
My point is this:
When my friend gets home from work after midnight, many times he finds evidence of bear activity. He proceeds with extreme caution and some trepidation because our employer has a strictly enforced policy of no guns in vehicles on company property subject to immediate firing. He returns home to a possible danger situation each night. He doesn’t even have the option of a warning shot to scare off the intruders.
seems like I’d want to take that to the employer and ask for them to reconsider… they’re putting his life in danger… are they willing to take some legal responsibility for his safety? Maybe they need to think about that.
Does he have an option to park on the street?
We’re both country boys. It’s an 1/8 mile hike d o wn my drive and further for his. The problem is not knowing where the critter is and maybe meeting it around the corner of t h e house.
Oh you mean parking at work? No place for that. Park only in our not well thought out parking lot.
He’s informed them that his widow will take them to court. It’s a term of employment. Not that many plants here where a man his age could move to. Many of them m ay have the same policy.
This is a real concern that few consider. One may return home to an armed intruder or find other threats while “naked.”
I am not sure where you are located but here in Wisconsin the law states an employer CAN NOT stop you from having a weapon in your vehicle even in their parking lot.
I know this is not the case in all states but I would check into it if it was me.
Might want to discuss that with an atty. Other than specific secure areas like prisons and federal facilities the SCOTUS has ruled that your vehicle is an extension of your home/castle and thus as long as it’s legally possessed and transported you have a right to keep both weapons and ammunition in your vehicle.
Bears just knock them down. Tear through them. They’re used to getting bee stung and briar bit. Doesn’t bother them. Might make them grumpy. Now that’s good.
We have to be careful of the children and pets getting into something like that. This is a very populated residential are in the city limits. Even if it didn’t do great harm, I wouldn’t want the possible lawsuit. The city probably wouldn’t allow it anyway.
They aren’t hot enough to do you any real harm but will definitely hurt. We’ve run as much as 10 miles of fence off of a single unit to keep cattle contained.
Yeah, you know I wish I’d just kept my mouth shut.
Let’s just pretend the bears don’t exist. I only mentioned them to illustrate the point of what a good chance my friend has of running face to face with a bear. I’m not going to try to fix everybody’s bear problem. They’re all over the place.
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