The Aftermath: Curtains and DNA Save California Man

I also keep a 410 but, also have a 9mm I can grab just as easy. I really don’t to kill if I can help it,but I will if it’s me or you.

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Oklahoma is blessed to be a strong 2A state with both stand your ground and castle laws. My wife and I both carry 9mm’s and there is always a couple Remington 870’s stationed at the ready!

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Texas is a great 2A state for both at home, and when in our vehicles. I received the age-old advice, from a local sheriff deputy that has stood the tests of time: You’re in the best shape, if the glass and the body are inside the house. As for home defense, it is a long distance from my bedroom to the front door, and I would not trust my pistol to stop an intruder in the dark. Therefore, within my reach is Mr. Mossberg with 9 little friends. Unlike a .410, a 12 gauge requires less aiming accuracy. Another responder here is correct – if they’ve already come through your door, chambering a round won’t deter them, because they’re already pumped, and wouldn’t hear it, anyway.

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I like the .410 Have used that gauge many times over the years. There all sorts of loads out there for it hunting or defensive. I although of course can also go .45 cal. :us:

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12 gauge shotgun
Judge 45/410
9mm

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Although I have a 9mm in the event of a break in, last summer the effectiveness of my $20-$25 Master Lock Door Security Bar was tested by a fairly healthy, larger size guy with a crow bar at 2am. I would add to the Tactical section… substantial door, deadbolt locks and use a security bar at night to prevent intruders. The security bar paid for itself many times over that night at 2am!

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Yes both Castle and Stand Youal Ground.
Home Protection varies, my edc is a 9mm, bear spray, I do have a 12 gauge accessible, plus my 410/45 long colts.
Just hope I can de-escalate the situation

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My cylinder bore 12, 20 and 410 all pattern 6" at 7 yards with #4 buck. Just more pellets in the bigger gauges. You still have to aim. If you haven’t done so already, pattern your gun with the shot you will use at the ranges inside your home. Use a silhouette target.
Secondly you should have a light on your gun. Identify your target. It might be one of your kids paying a surprise visit. It has happened. Even my and my wife’s nightstand pistols have a light.

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I had a cop friend tell me this same urban legend once. He is a cop in a high crime, major metropolitan, top five violent cities. Great guy. Bad advice. My response to “racking a slide will scare the perp away” was “I can get a 30 round magazine into my AR faster than I can get 5 rounds into my 870.” He didn’t push back on that idea. When the life of my family is on the line, I’m not relying on the bad guy doing the right or the smart thing. Also, why do we assume the bad guy is actually going to hear the sound? Do we expect him to see the gun and say, “oh sorry. My bad. I didn’t hear the magical leave me alone sound.”

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Don’t use bear spray inside your home. While demonstrating my pepper spray to some friends I accidentally spritzed a minute amount from the canister. Didn’t think anything about it. In less than five minutes the four of us had to exit my 3500 square foot printing plant as that tiny spritz had spread throughout the plant.

If you insist on depending upon some chemical deterrent, use a solid stream chemical deterrent. I haven’t used one inside my home but I believe you will have less misting with a solid spray. I know a misting type of chemical spray will definitely fill your home unless you are Al Gore living in a 60,000 square foot castle.

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Yes.

Intruder should be hearing the alarm blaring (depending on time of day, etc, but definitely for the proverbial middle of the night break in people imagine), and shouldn’t be in your bedroom just yet, to hear you make ready. I wouldn’t recommend waiting or worse yet venturing forth with an unloaded gun waiting to chamber a round when confronted by the intruders under the assumption that they will see/hear you and just turn and run. Hopefully they do, if it comes to that, but if they don’t…me…I’d rather my firearm already be loaded.

I’m also not convinced that the sound of racking a shotgun is all that different from, say, dropping the bolt on an AR ,or working the action of pretty much any other applicable firearm. They all tend to make a fairly well recognized sound, if you are within earshot

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I have multiple defensive measures from semiautomatic bullpup 12ga, this would be for like a home invasion type situation(“surprise”). I have a modified Glock .45 some of the modifications are a compensated Lone Wolf Barrel, Apex trigger, and guide rod laser sight and special iron sights, this would be for an unknown person ringing video doorbell. Then I have my HellCat RDP, it would be for if I were woke up to glass break someone quiet and slow unless the 12ga was in a better path. I also have knives in various places, wasp & hornet spray, OC, Pepper, and just for the fun I got stun gun knuckles, I for each hand. Now that I’m back in a state with common sense I gave a acquaintance one knuckle.
I also decided to buy “The BLAK knife” it’s AWESOME. and I plan on giving that forever guarantee a run to the money! Anyways I had a Mossberg .410 pump and most of the time I couldn’t get it to chamber a round of any kind and could not get the safety to work it would either get stuck on or off till it got stuck in the safe position haven’t touched it since. To be honest the Mossberg 500 I carried on patrol eventually had issues with the safe so I swictched to the AR-15, never had trouble with my firearm setup again.

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MO has stand-your-ground laws. For Home Defense my 20ga w/#4 buckshot is the go-to gun. Also, a AR15 and several handguns as a back-up. All topped off with an ADT Alarm system. On one practice sessions I took a rack of spareribs as a target for the 20ga. At 20 feet I can assure you, the target would not walk away due to the 4 inch hole the #4 buckshot left in the ribs.

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I liked your comments. My feelings exactly.

My state has a castel and stand your ground, to stop unwanted entry i have a door bell camera and one on each corner of the house giving us 360 views around the the whole house, then if needed Thompson 1911 45acp, browning high power 9mm, smith and Wesson model 15 combat Masterpiece in 38 special if this doesn’t work Ruger mini14 in 223 caliber. We have trained many a hour’s to handle a break-in. Having the gear with no training leave you unready for what may come your way. So look at your situation and see where you may need to train to repel all borders around your house. Stay Alert Don’t Get Hurt :cowboy_hat_face::desert::us_outlying_islands::cactus::statue_of_liberty::sun_with_face::+1:

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Shotgun wise I run a 500 Persuader. Single shot H&R on rack also. Amazing what can be done with an old single with a little practice :us:

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That is a real shame that has happened, and how much ammo did you lose as well??

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