How to get used to one in the chamber?

I think perhaps you misunderstand how Glock safeties work. See this page for an explanation.

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Train, train and train. Time with your firearm will build your confidence with it AND in yourself. You’ll learn the particular safety features of your firearm and you’ll come to understand just what it takes to overcome them with a careless act.

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You could probably say that with most striker fired firearms as the firing mechanism is at least partially “cocked” with the chamfering of a round. But my semi automatic is a double action/single action firearm so after chambering a round the hammer is then safely dropped with the lever on the side of the pistol making the first shot double action.

Realize too, even pistols in the same make and model can have slight variations in trigger pull

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Very good advice… you have obviously spent a lot of time thinking and working this out. Thank you for the insight.

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OG, I’m kind of with Ron39 on this one. The Safe Action Pistol mechanism IS safe, and the explanation you provided via the link is a great illustration of why - but -

When a Glock is in a light weight flexible container, there remains a chance that with the “right” twists and any stiff intrusion into the fanny pack - it is conceivable (however unlikely) that the trigger could be successfully engaged from the outside (in a fall into brush, say) and the pistol fired unintentionally.

I admit that the situation is highly unlikely - but that unlikely situation is completely prohibited by a properly structured hard holster (e.g., Kydex) or a well made and protective leather or similar material holster.

The possibility of twists and material intrusion is one of the reasons I carry my Glock 17 in a Sticky Holster when I carry it in my flight jacket map pocket, and I don’t use a sticky holster in pocket when I carry the XDE (DA/SA mode with external safety) in the flight jacket. Probably technically overkill - but I FEEL safer that way :-). The flight jacket leather is quite resistant to anything intruding into the pocket, but it just doesn’t feel quite right - so I use the sticky holster to further protect the trigger guard.

It is most probably unnecessary for me to do that with the Glock in the jacket, but it’s back to that individual level of comfort thing I guess.

In a final reflection - since I’m definitely a proponent of figuring out how to safely and comfortably carry with one in the chamber ready to go, to Ron and the others, it makes sense to keep working until one finds the way that works and satisfies safety and comfort. And to those that feel they are very fast in cycling the action on the draw - you are still totally out of luck if you only have one operational hand…

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Thank you OldDude49. You reminded of an education video on the importance of “muscle memory”.

Hoping others would also chime in; I’m very interested to read others’ response in comparing a “cocked-back” revolver, comparing it to “one in the chamber (in a semi-auto)”? How do those two specific scenarios differ? How much more pressure is needed on a trigger when a revolver is cocked in position, compared to one in the chamber in a semi-auto?

In that exact scenario, is the revolver trigger pull ultra sensitive and light?

Is one in the chamber also as light in trigger pull, or still have much heavier trigger pull weight compared to the cocked revolver?

Pardon my asking; I’m familiar with revolvers, but not single action, I’ve only had experience with DOA with shrouded hammers, and very new to semi-auto’s, especially with less ammo range time these days; And open to learning.

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generally speaking a cocked revolver means you have a single action type trigger…

such USUALLY have a much lighter trigger pull and was supposedly for better accuracy…

double action trigger pull/pressure with a revolver is USUALLY heavier then single action…

revolver… chambered round??? semi-auto??? thinkin we have some wrong nomenclature here???

the action of a revolver is VERY different then that of a semi-auto pistol…

thinkin you may need a class in basic handguns???

tends to be a good idea getting training with a competent instructor…

as it helps avoid shooter error and keeps you and those around you above ground…

I therefore STRONGLY urge you to seek out a competent instructor!!!

seeing the operation of and hands on instruction can save you a lot time and is often extremely effective !!!

where explaining using typed words on the net… can be less then desirable… and result in errors!!!

ALSO generally speaking revolver trigger pull single action should be the same every time…

this also applies to revolver double action…

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Milton, your phone number and name are in this post! Might want to edit that out for privacy!

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I actually disagree.

There is a time. You wait your turn, if he get distracted, moves to a different person, moves his gun away from you, turns away, bends over, you draw and stop the threat. This is how many defense encounters occur.
NOW if the perp is trained on you, than of course that is not your turn and you will most likely lose. (We might be saying the same thing here actually :sweat_smile:)

BUT this is not reasonable if you have to chamber a round. You want the quickest draw and get the first shot on the perp. This is what is seen over and over again on Active Self Protect.

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Learning about the striker block and how it works made me feel much better about carrying.

Buy a reputable gun (not just something from someone else, Take care of your gun according to the Manuel, learn how to function test the striker block, don’t make any stupid modifications with the gun.

Accidental discharges occur with bad weapon handling, and or modifications to the hand gun (some people take out the striker block and smooth out the Sear making it possible for the gun to actually fire on its own don’t do that and you should be fine :joy:).

Hearing “modern guns don’t go off on their own” doesn’t help someone like me. What helps me is literally seeing the safety features myself. You can and should learn how to test the striker block (assuming this is a striker fired pistol). I’m not familiar with hammer fired guns, but they too have their safety points. That will make you feel better.

Good gun, in a good holster = an inert object.

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Best advise - see a NRA Certified Trainer.
Ask him to show you.
A lot “more to it than meets the eye”.

Easy question.
Complicated Answer.

To get comfortable:
Involves - Technique, Discipline, Practice, Gear ie TRAINING
Which you should get anyway.
Find the nearest NRA Certified Instructor - give him a call.
Or find the nearest IDPA match, go watch, ask them who is a good, Certified
instructor near you.

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I don’t know what kind of fanny pack you’re talking about. The only one I ever had in which I would carry a gun had a holster sleeve that covered the trigger guard. If you’re not going to carry well - that is, in a holster - you’re not carrying safely. I don’t care what gun you own.

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Practice and training. Understanding the firearm is the key, and becoming comfortable in handling it. Do not be discouraged, we have all had our questions.
Carry on.

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Thanks for the heads up. How do I remove my phone and email? I would appreciate your help.
Milton

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Click the pencil at the bottom at the bottom of the post.

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It might also be at the top.

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What helped me was understanding that my holster fully covers the trigger and grips the gun very tightly. I didn’t want another variable (chambering a round) for if, God forbid, I need to use my firearm.

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I’ve removed it for you, @Milton4. Here’s a quick visual of how to edit a post on a computer:
Shared with Zight
and then:
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Depending on what platform you’re on it might be in different places. Hope this helps!

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Let’s take a moment to pause and remember we’re all on the same side here - the side of responsibly armed Americans being able to defend themselves.

We all are passionate and have different training/experience/physical limitations, so let’s not bash someone else’s opinion. And even if they’re “wrong” (wrong = unsafe), we can use the opportunity to educate instead of bash.

The way I got used to carrying one in the chamber is carrying at home unloaded and doing everything I normally do. Then I carried with a loaded magazine at home, doing everything I do normally. Then I put one in the chamber at home… Vacuuming is great for getting used to having your firearm on you - you twist, bend down, walk normally. If you need someplace to vacuum… :wink:

My other suggestion is to give yourself a timeline for your goal of carrying with one in the chamber (as that was the question “how”). Mine was about a week each stage, but it has to be something you’re comfortable with.

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I disagree with both of you. I’m not new, I’m just a contrarian.

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