Ammunition loaded wrong

Someone needs remedial training

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Someone who is brand new to shooting doesn’t always know what direction the ammo should go in. I’ve seen it with people on their first trip to the range and with people who haven’t shot in a very long time.

It’s not that they’re a dumbo, it’s that they need assistance. Thankfully, our RSO’s are very good at working with less experienced shooters and catch their mistakes before they cause any issues.

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It’s true Dawn, seems like people just don’t have common sense anymore and they’re too cool to read that owner’s manual that came with their new gun. :disappointed:

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Remember, a lot of these people are taking the advice they’ve been given and are renting a firearm before buying one.

They’re out there trying to learn. If you’ve never held a gun before, it can be terrifying the first time. And the range can be loud and scary if you’re new to guns. We should be educating and encouraging them. Not coming down on them because they made a mistake or didn’t know something. We all had to start somewhere. :slight_smile:

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@Dawn I don’t come down on anybody Dawn, I don’t. Some are unwilling to learn, some are with people that they should not be at a gun range with but as I said a long time ago I don’t say or write anything that I may regret at some future point. You could think anything that you want but committing it in writing or speech well that is something you can not pull back on. I do see and understand your point as well with your background as a safety officer. Maybe it would be a great idea if gun ranges everywhere offered certain basic rudimentary tasks when buying a firearm to show the beginning gun owner what is something that experienced life long shooters just do and just know.

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Why I dont like ranges that have one RSO for multiple firing lines.

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As far as loading it backwards, almost every newbie I’ve taken to the range has tried to load them backwards. I don’t know what it is that makes it look like it “should point that way”? Obviously, I’m there watching so can correct it, and they will only do it once, but I have found it odd that almost universally their first attempt is to put the rounds in backwards.

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@Dawn Loud and scary=intimidation+mistakes.
It’s true that you can’t fix stupid, but I agree that ignorance is repairable.
Newbies are pretty easy to spot. Why not nicely and humbly volunteer some help when we notice them on the range? We may help make a safe and effective gun owner. And as a bonus:
The life you save may be your own.

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@Harvey With no real knowledge of the “whole picture” and how all the parts interact in a firearm, it would appear to the person that the cartridge easily inserts in the magazine this way. It makes perfect sense to him because he doesn’t understand the interaction between the magazine and the slide etc.
Hand someone with no mechanical ability some tools and tell him to do a simple oil change on a car. Depending on how unlearned the person is you may get vacant stares, serious mistakes, or even have a wrench thrown at you.
Understanding purpose is also important. Any time you don’t understand the purpose of a thing, you will abuse it. You can’t ask the thing. It doesn’t know. Purpose must be learned. If you don’t know the purpose for medication you will abuse it. If you don’t know the purpose for a wife, you will abuse her. If you don’t know your own purpose, you will abuse yourself. Always search for purpose. This is the basic problem in the world.

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The range I work at offers the First Shots program for people who have never held a gun. It takes them through a introductory course and out on the range with a .22 under the supervision of range officers and an instructor.

There is a small charge to hold your space in the class, but then you get it back as a gift card for the range when you take the class. It’s an awesome experience for 99.9999% There have been a few that just couldn’t get over their fear of guns. I give those people the upmost credit and respect for trying something they fear. :slight_smile:

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@Dawn Well that’s a great idea, next time I visit the gun store I am going to see if I can get something similar there and when I get to another range same thing. I think it’s good to not begin a gun education with someone you pay or otherwise not familiar with for different reasons. 1. Familiarity with a person 2. Just because a person is knowledgeable does not make you a teacher 3. The trainee may not want the trainer to see vulnerability 4. The Trainer may not have patience to be an instructor 5. As a good example many years ago my father who has been dead since 1986 to give you a little time reference paid for my mother to get drivers education training because he well they never discussed or argued in front of me or my siblings they took it somewhere else so following that up if my mom screwed up he didn’t want to get upset, mad, or otherwise so she went to drivers school for training. So tying this up for you, I cannot see any downside in stores offering this to their customers. And also; bonus the new person doesn’t develop any bad or lazy habits.

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True, but remember, ignorance you can fix, stupid you can’t do anything with😏. I fear anyone handling/loading a weapon with no experience and without having a knowledgeable person with them must fall into the latter category.

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