# What is that featured hollowpoint on Concealed Carry Magazine cover november december 2023? **URL:** \ **Category:** Guns & Gear\ **Created:** [February 27, 2024, 3:30am UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/what-is-that-featured-hollowpoint-on-concealed-carry-magazine-cover-november-december-2023/100563 "2024-02-27T03:30:09Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![John1549](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ecd19e/32.png) [@John1549](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/John1549)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2024, 3:30am UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/what-is-that-featured-hollowpoint-on-concealed-carry-magazine-cover-november-december-2023/100563/1 "2024-02-27T03:30:09Z")
It looks to be folded brass into a 6 point star so that the hollowpoint should expand but not into petals. Surprised the magazine does not have an “about” section for the cover. Here is the image [https://www.usconcealedcarry.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/11/08\_NOVDEC-23\_WEB-DigitalSAMPLE\_CCM.pdf](https://www.usconcealedcarry.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/11/08_NOVDEC-23_WEB-DigitalSAMPLE_CCM.pdf) Thanks! ---
**Author:** ![Shamrock](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/community.usconcealedcarry.com/shamrock/32/24612_2.png) [@Shamrock](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/Shamrock)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2024, 3:50am UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/what-is-that-featured-hollowpoint-on-concealed-carry-magazine-cover-november-december-2023/100563/2 "2024-02-27T03:50:53Z")
Welcome to the community @John1549 It looks like Federal Hydra Shock Deep to me. It’s a somewhat newer ammunition designed to expand reliably but in general get a little deeper penetration than other hollow point bullets in the same calibers. The petals do expand individually but they are not bonded to any lead near the tip like many modern HP self defense rounds so it is just the copper petals that expand. It comes in a few different calibers. It is the best ammo choice I have been able to find in .380. Other .380 hollow point rounds tend to either not expand reliably or not penetrate to FBI test standards when they do expand. But the Hydra Shok Deep in .380 does both reliably in the calibrated tests I have seen. ---
**Author:** ![Shamrock](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/community.usconcealedcarry.com/shamrock/32/24612_2.png) [@Shamrock](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/Shamrock)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2024, 4:02am UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/what-is-that-featured-hollowpoint-on-concealed-carry-magazine-cover-november-december-2023/100563/3 "2024-02-27T04:02:37Z")
This article has a picture of the expanded bullet: > **[Ammo review: Federal’s .380 ACP and .38 Special Hydra-Shok Deep](https://www.police1.com/police-products/firearms/accessories/ammunition/articles/ammo-review-federals-380-acp-and-38-special-hydra-shok-deep-HE86hi6YglGXrw5k/)** > > These new Hydra-Shok Deep loads provide levels of ammunition performance previously restricted to service-size calibers and guns ---
**Author:** ![Ronald150](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/da6949/32.png) [@Ronald150](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/Ronald150)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2024, 7:50am UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/what-is-that-featured-hollowpoint-on-concealed-carry-magazine-cover-november-december-2023/100563/4 "2024-02-27T07:50:40Z")
@John1549 Welcome to the community! ---
**Author:** ![Nathan57](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/community.usconcealedcarry.com/nathan57/32/37700_2.png) [@Nathan57](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/Nathan57)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2024, 12:34pm UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/what-is-that-featured-hollowpoint-on-concealed-carry-magazine-cover-november-december-2023/100563/5 "2024-02-27T12:34:38Z")
> [@Shamrock](#): > > It looks like Federal Hydra Shock Deep to me. I You are correct. The cover ammo is Hydra-Shok Deep 135 grain 9mm ---
**Author:** ![RAYMOND45](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/community.usconcealedcarry.com/raymond45/32/95095_2.png) [@RAYMOND45](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/RAYMOND45)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2024, 1:02pm UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/what-is-that-featured-hollowpoint-on-concealed-carry-magazine-cover-november-december-2023/100563/6 "2024-02-27T13:02:13Z")
Welcome ---
**Author:** ![Don102](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/community.usconcealedcarry.com/don102/32/165939_2.png) [@Don102](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/Don102)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2024, 2:45pm UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/what-is-that-featured-hollowpoint-on-concealed-carry-magazine-cover-november-december-2023/100563/7 "2024-02-27T14:45:09Z")
Welcome John1549 ! Welcome to the Fold Brother Excellent first post! WWG1WGA ---
**Author:** ![Scotty](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/community.usconcealedcarry.com/scotty/32/13706_2.png) [@Scotty](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/Scotty)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2024, 3:40pm UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/what-is-that-featured-hollowpoint-on-concealed-carry-magazine-cover-november-december-2023/100563/8 "2024-02-27T15:40:50Z")
From Federal’s website: ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/dd_dev/original/3X/5/2/52ff91dd5edbd8a2eacee7b504b17bd4ec56e706.jpeg) ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/dd_dev/original/3X/6/2/6212815900e6a571394151bebbf2140deb8d75bb.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Karacal](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/community.usconcealedcarry.com/karacal/32/146742_2.png) [@Karacal](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/Karacal)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2024, 11:23pm UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/what-is-that-featured-hollowpoint-on-concealed-carry-magazine-cover-november-december-2023/100563/9 "2024-02-27T23:23:20Z")
A bullet within a bullet. ![IMG_3721](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/dd_dev/original/3X/9/a/9a3bd832f288795d2fc134635dfc1d45a343c218.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Scotty](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/community.usconcealedcarry.com/scotty/32/13706_2.png) [@Scotty](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/u/Scotty)\ **Post date:** [February 29, 2024, 4:56pm UTC](https://community.usconcealedcarry.com/t/what-is-that-featured-hollowpoint-on-concealed-carry-magazine-cover-november-december-2023/100563/10 "2024-02-29T16:56:34Z")
Lead bullet nipples… ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/dd_dev/original/3X/a/1/a1eb34924ca4cfdbaa3c58016824292910ac7e0e.gif)