What ever happened to shooting looters?

You got that right William191!!! I’ve lived in the Detroit area for 46 years. Somewhere about 1980 the scum had looted, burned, and pillaged all the city proper. Then , of course, they headed for the suburbs where many of the inner city residents had fled to. Fortunately, in 2001 the State of Michigan passed a CPL law for the population. The scum had to go back to the inner city and start killing their own as the suburbs were way too dangerous for thugs now that folks were armed. Certain areas of Detroit now resemble Ukraine and are free fire zones for the bad guys.

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I dont care why, he deserved the credit.
Too bad his counterparts today only appeal to mentally ill to be more lawless.

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Same here.Should be that way everywhere.

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As an update to RJ Daley’s take on arsonists & looters, some might want to declare open season on Karnes!

So, 10 looters come to the door, look in and yell “GO!!”. The 70 something ladies that are operating the wedding dress establishment walk over to the door and say “Please don’t take our stuff, it’s all we have, we put everything we have into this…”. Do the looters say “Sorry mam” and walk away? OR Do they say “Get out of the way we’re cleaning this place out”? And to the point, are the otherwise defenseless owners afraid for their lives? Is there anything ‘physical’ they can do to stop the looters? Certainly this is an anecdotal clip but it makes the point, the looters aren’t only taking stuff they are taking the physical and financial security of the victims.

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On my SD issue in Wa State at the first 2 STOPS he thought I wasnt serious but on the 3rd Stop when i lit him up with the laser betwee his eyes he went cross eyed and saw it in his eyes that I was deadly serious,so he did what i wanted,turned around and left,then apparently he called the LEO and they came and they talked to the DA and he charged me with Brandishing and I called USCCA and had an attorney the next day and spent 4 months going to court,then the Da dismissed the charges a on account that the jury would rule SD in the charges,was cleared and all rights restored,and I can attest that USS
CCA does do what they claim.

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It was fortunate that you had the foresight to have USSCCA backing you up. If you had picked a name out of the phone book it might not have turned out the way it did. Even so, you had to go through four months of b.s. because of an overzealous DA. Unfortunately there are too many of them. I want to add the you can’t always trust a local attorney. Robert Kardashian was supposed to be an experienced criminal defense attorney, yet his advice to O.J. Simpson was, “If you didn’t do anything, go on down and talk to the cops.” A local criminal defense specialist so certified by the Kalliwacky Bar ASSociation told a prospective client the same thing, A close relative of mine who worked for the county Public Defenders Office inherited the client after he followed the criminal defense specialist’s advice and was charged with the crime — whodda thunk? The relative was furious because now he was starting at the bottom of the ninth with two outs down three runs and the count is oh and two and he has to go in as pinch hitter. He was only an attorney, not a miracle worker. He was unable to get the guy off.

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The DA about the 2nd month wanted a meet with me and my att,so we went to his conference room and he wanted a pleaa deal and my guy said the only plea he will accept is complete exoneration and all rights restored and then the DA wanted to know if I killed any one when I was in my unit,and I told him 3 times that I did what the mission requires me to do and to stay alive,and my atty was grinning from ear to ear and said that was an excellent reply on the way out,and at the next court date was released and all rights returned and went to the PD and they returned my 45 ,but stole my expensive DRT rounds and i asked and said tey dont return the ammo,and I sid so you are stealing from ne then,its my property you are taking,and I was mad that they stole my ammo for the LEO to practice with,so the next day I came back to Texas

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Yeah, official stealing. They know that you won’t pay the attorney to get rounds of ammo back. The attorney will tell you to let it go. The cops know all that, so they steal your ammo. Then they wonder why so many folks sign on to defund the police. Until they clean up their own act, they are going to be under fire. They are like painful surgery. You have to have it and the rehab will be long and painful. You wish you didn’t need to undergo it. Cops do serve a somewhat useful purpose but they are like bad surgery.

To that point, perhaps at a certain moment, that person or persons stops being looters; Or not.

Once they cross a line, if they do, it’s up to the civilian to assess for danger of life, limb, and know their laws in advance. I’d just be careful not to generalize or equate looting with attempt on one’s life.

Head on a swivel? IDK my friend. It’s complicated. :blush:

Certainly is complicated, in Utah I only need to have reasonable fear that my well being is in danger, I don’t have to wait for a weapon or an injury.

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